Benji Weber wrote: > On 16/05/07, M9. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> Terje J. Hanssen schreef: >> > No much response so far about this. >> > Isn't here interest and a chance to get the new patterns for Media >> Center >> > and A/V multimedia applications in 10.3, to provide an alternative to >> > typical the upcoming Windows Home Server and Ubuntu Studio? >> > >> > Terje J. Hanssen >> >> Not that i can do much about it, but i certainly would welcome a >> complete multimedia pattern. >> I allways have to add all these pkgs by myself, not a big problem, but >> 'comfort serves mankind'.... >> (tried xdvdshrinker last week. works OK, and also simple) >> >> How to realize that without third party codecs, could be done with the >> Yast-patch by Benji Weber: YaST meta-package module. >> If accepted. >> libdvdcss is also needed, i allways have a tar around, because i was not >> able to find them anymore free on the net..(might be my mistake..) >> >> Maybe Benji would like to create this 'pattern' in cooperation, to get >> all the pkgs needed, in his module.. >> >> @Benji, do you feel for it? ( i think y're module will get a more >> grown-up image with this change..) > > Making patterns or metapackages is not hard, you could help by > compiling a list of packages which should be installed for a full > multimedia experience. Separate lists for KDE and gnome would be good. >
For me it does less matter where the packages really become installed from or who build or support them. Packman does a great job to build and make most of them available, and I have already tried to install many of them from there. What is most important as I see it, is to 1) have the optional install patterns available with possibly YaST presetup, so that multimedia and media center packages become as easy to install as office packages, and preferably do work right out of the box (turnkey). As an example I've tried to install Ardour2 and its required JACK and optional qtjackctl. For one or another reason Jackd won't start on my i586 system, while it runs ok in x86_64 on a Xeon workstation. I've also discussed this with packman. Audio-Video tools closer to the hardware, may also need some optimized kernels, just like Ubuntu Studio includes a low-latency kernel for Audio and Ardour2 I guess. 2) Can it be an idea and solution to place possibly non-GPLed packages on the non-OSS CD, so that the users has to select them as optionally and accept possibly restricted licenses and use? 3) As an example I've heard that generating/encoding mpeg video files (typical with ffmeg) strictly should require a $2 license once to be paid by the user. I myself should gladly pay this minor license if this will support in finally getting a prosumer working video editing environment on Linux. On the other hand I'm not sure this license is really required for native HDV editing. When an user buy i.e a Sony HDV Camcorder to record HDV (mpeg2), I expect this video file is free to be captured on harddisk, natively edited in Cinelerra and burned to DVD or Blu-Ray, the whole process within mpeg without decoding or encoding, or not more than from mpeg2 to mpeg4. 4) I also think it will be a mistake if openSUSE doesn't take this opportunity to provide attractive multimedia and media center environments. Many users like myself do require more from Linux desktops than plain office applications. The hardware developement invites just to utilize these possibilities even on standard Santa Rosa laptops (GM965, GMA X3100, ClearVideo), something the competitors obviously already have discovered. Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
