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jdd schreef:
> M9. wrote:
> 
> so, if I understand well you have only one lan (192.168.1.x) with all
> the PC on it.

Yes that is correct ;-)

> 
> previously you said:
> 
> "This morning i had to shut down the firewall to enter my Lan.
> Printing was impossible, and also accessing the other pc's and laptops
> in the network.
> 
> What i do not understand is why this firewall prevents me from entering
> other pc's in the network, while others can acces mine easily?"
> 
> It looks like you (or any event) swapped the internal and external
> network in the config
> 
> try setting with defaults - usually defaults are good

I used the defaults, after putting back the network interface back to
the external zone again.

> 
>> About /etc/scripts/SuSEfirewall2, there are many files there, i do not
>> know which one you want to see.
> 
> it's not a folder but a file in my computer (but the one I have just at
> hand is a 10.1, may be the file was spread in several ones later)
> 
> this file is commented internally, and the comments are the only
> firewall notice I know of
> 
>> IMHO should a firwall be configured once, and work in silence,
>> protecting  a pc or laptop against attack fro 'outside'.
> 
> it's what SuSEfirewall2 do usually :-)
> 
>> It should not block the trusted hosts, and block the untrusted ones.
> 
> not clear in your config wich is what

In my config there are only trusted hosts...
(in a windows case there are constantly hosts that are informed by
dataminers, in windows one should be able to block them...)

> 
>> A warning should be displayed, with an option to grant or denie an
>> attempt to enter the pc, with a discription of the host and the ip
>> adress, so that one can decide to let pass once or forever, which does
>> not mean that 'forever' can not be changed to denie.
> 
> it's really too easy to clic on "yes" without caution and very difficult
> to go back after, and should any user be allowed to do so?

Normaly, if you have a good firewall, there is a discription of the
host, its ip adress, and the purpose for entering from or towards the pc.
The streams are visible if you want: in, out, and which ports are used.
each programm is listed, and the ports they use.
> 
>>
>> A realy good firewall can work with passwords, just as a server can.
> 
> I think somewhat your definition of "firewall" is wrong. a firewall is
> used to open or close "ports"

exactly!

, not communication

yes it has to let me know who is going out and going in, and i must be
able to shut whatever port i like, in principle..

 (your firewalls don't
> do NAT, as you have an other router).
> 
> whatever you do with these ports is irrelevant.

If some host wants to enter my pc, i want to know this, and be able to
close the gate (port) if i do not want it entering for whatever reason i
have.
If i give a password to a host, it can enter without noticing me, as
long as i want to let the firewall exept the password.

> 
> a firewall works at the packet level, not at the logical one, it knows
> nothing of passwords. It protect networks, so if you want a part with
> trusted pc, it must be the internal and untrusted the external or the
> dmz if they are in your house, but this needs an other net card (an
> other lan).

A good firewall can handele this perfectly, with just one card.

> 
> you can set some filtering based on IP, but I'm not sure it's secure and
> anyway it's difficult to setup.
> 
> finally you said "This morning i had to shut down the firewall to enter
> my Lan.", so the day before the firewall was nice, what did change in
> between?

Not one thing, that is why i call the firewall inconsistent..

> 
> I beg you use an samba network and windows samba is buggy and needs to
> open nearly anything to work as was said from the beginning by an other
> writer.

I use samba on the Linux-side,

> 
> http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-09/msg00335.html
> 
> but if I understand well, doing so is nearly the same as stopping the
> firewall.

As i understand, only for the ports used by samba for the LAN?

> 
>  use of samba server on suse fixes the permission problem.

Samba server i did not use before...

> 
> jdd
> 

If you want to know what i mean, you should download the free sygate
firewall from norton, and use it on a windows box.



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Have a nice day,

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