> I reopened
>  [Bug 264228] nspluginwrapper + java plugin problems
>  [Bug 288750] Home bank issues with java+firefox on x86_64
> to get a final decision. I know it's really late, but a 64bit system
> without a working firefox/java combination is a blocker in my eyes.
>
>
> --
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
>  Andreas Vetter


I have to agree with Andreas Vetter.  Firefox/java/flash should simply
work, without manual intervention, on any gui installation (even x86_64). 
In my opinion, the decision to go with only OSS solutions - even though
they don't work right - is likely to push end-users toward other
distributions.

Please pardon me for slipping off-topic for a minute, but I'm surprised
that so many things still aren't working at this stage in the release. 
For example, I'm still fighting with these issues:

nvidia 6800 video artifacts require frequent X restarts
USB flash drives only mount for root
alt-F2 commands for yast and sax2 bring up my router's web page
kdetv fails even though the tuner was found during installation

Whenever I install a new alpha/beta of openSUSE, it takes a couple days to
get some of my favorite applications working again.  Part of this time is
spent removing the openSUSE versions of some applications so that I can
install versions that aren't crippled (codecs and torrents).  We can't
expect to lure anyone away from other operating systems and distributions
with a broken web browser experience and multimedia experience.

....Gregg Nicholas
p.s.  I've been manually installing kpodder and Miro since I haven't found
a repository that includes them.
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