Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Tuesday 2007-11-20 at 18:03 +0100, jdd wrote:
Sid Boyce wrote:
http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/opensuse10.3.review.html
Mentions of "for the uninitiated" sounds about right. To sidestep any
problems with the DVD, I've installed from Factory. Looks like the DVD
should have been delayed until it was compared with Factory for
stability.
I think the reviewer attempted to be fair (he points to the URL to show
where he is coming from). Perhaps some pertinent pointers for 11.0.
Regards
Sid.
always the same garbage... the author say that he wouldn't give
openSUSE to a newcommer, but he try the install on a very special
machine (grub on the root partition, and he wonder why he can't reboot
without editing the original grub!!!), and when going to console he
tries to use mandriva tools and don't know yast is at hand.
so one people that wants to make all special by himself and wonder why
openSUSE don't do this automatically. May I say no distribution can
do? and on my own laptop, mandriva installs worst than openSUSE (what
means little)
I don't find the review that bad.
I know how to have solved/avoided some of the problems he had, but
simply because I'm an experienced suse user. I would have probably
similar problems switching to any other distro. No big deal.
About those grub problems... he admits his setup is special (as special
as mine). A small modification would have solved those problems - just
that I know why, and he didn't. He probably didn't know his way about
yast enough to twiddle initial grub config. Yast during the first
install allows almost everything, and this, which I like, is probably
confusing to a newcomer.
It's just a problem of knowing "The SuSE Way of Things" :-P
Multimedia? He didn't know/discover about the one click install of
multimedia (xine et al), and for that we can not blame him, as it is not
advertised in big letters. We know of better links with better info than
some of those he used.
It is not "garbage". We are convinced suse users. He, they, are not. If
we want to bring people to our side, we have to pave the way for them;
and reading about the difficulties a new user finds, is a good way to
know which edges in our distro could be ironed out.
- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
The only distros I had a problem with at first were Kubuntu and
freespire, it's that "root" thing for which I still can't see the logic
of having to do "sudo su" or "su" and entering the user password.
The grub problem would have been exactly the same installing Mandriva
which is his normal distro, so he screwed up, period.
A quick search on google will point to packman for the multimedia stuff,
though most of it comes in Mandriva as standard.
Even for seasoned users KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) rules, so such
experiences should be educational in getting the best product out there
for all comers.
Pity the Unofficial SUSEFAQ isn't still maintained - when it was,
updates were always on freshmeat, but there is a wealth of stuff in the
archives and the wiki to rival any other distro. The difference is that
unlike Ubuntu which puts out lots of articles on how to do just about
anything under Ubuntu (useful to openSUSE also), we don't get out much
these days.
Regards
Sid.
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