On Thursday 10 January 2008 02:52:23 Rafał Miłecki wrote: > 2008/1/9, Stephan Kulow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Am Mittwoch 09 Januar 2008 schrieb Ladislav Michnovič: > > > I read the Roadmap at http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap and my humble > > > opinion is that we should have 4 beta releases, not only 3. The point > > > is that many bugs are reported lately and sometimes users start to > > > test higher Beta release (not the first one). And those lately > > > reported bugs are often not really critical so they can't be fixed in > > > RC so they stay unfixed in final release. > > > I know it is probably too late to talk about this for 11.0, but we > > > can observe if my point is correct. > > > > My humble believe is that people won't test beta2 if we do three betas > > and not test beta3 if we do four betas. So even if your point is valid > > for 3 betas, I believe it would be valid for 4 betas too. > > I have to agree with Ladislav. I test openSUSE from first beta release > and usually there isn't enought time to fix all the bugs. In case of > openSUSE 10.3 some *crashing* bugs weren't repaired, because of lack > of time I belive.
I am not at all unsympathetic to Ladislav's view, but the whole question of the number of alphas and betas is a bit academic if we do not have an agreement on what an alpha and beta may contain. The openSUSE 10.3 detailed roadmap made it clear that beta1 would provide a "Feature and version freeze for the complete distribution (exception: patchlevel update of leaf packages until Aug 17)" further beta3 would provide that "only blocker and bug fixes [would be] allowed" from then on. Yet the Factory News for 10.3 lists a number of changes post beta3 that do not appear to comply with either of these limitations. It seems to me that openSUSE 10.3's 7alphas, 3 betas and 3 release candidates could best be described as a chronological sequence of 13 pre-release candidates. So maybe we should just except that openSUSE is just a testbed for the enterprise server/desktop version and drop the alpha/beta nomenclature altogether. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
