Hi All,

During the GNOME 3.0 discussions at oSC, the issue of limited access to 
shutdown & hibernate commands came up during the session. 


I suggested the idea of using the gnome-shell-extension-alt-status-menu by 
default to give our users Shutdown and Hibernate alongside Suspend in their 
status menu.


At the time, two valid points were made in the defence of keeping our GNOME 3.x 
installation the same as upstream
To paraphrase, they were "Suspend by default makes perfect sense for laptops" 
and "The ACPI power button works and gives the user opportunity to shutdown"


Based on this discussion, my suggestion was to look into the possibility of 
having the extension installed by default but only on desktops.


Atri/badshah400 and others have been helping but this is proving to be rather 
difficult, with dirty hacks or purposefully causing package conflicts being the 
only two 'solutions' which should work, neither of which are any good.


Furthermore, GNOME 3.2 has changed the situation - the power button's default 
behaviour is now to suspend, and unlike in gnome 3.0 there is no 
user-accessible way for this change.


This means we are heading towards a 12.1 release with no easy way for our GNOME 
3.2 users to shutdown or hibernate their machine.


I therefore propose adding gnome-shell-extension-alt-status-menu to our default 
patterns


Suspend will still be highly prominent, still available in the status menu and 
will remain as the default behaviour for lid close (changeable in tweak-tool) 
and upon ACPI power button (with no easy way of changing)


Time is getting short so vuntz suggests we have a deadline of Tuesday to 
discuss this.. please say yes, or have really good arguments for why not! :)


Richard Brown
openSUSE Member (woo!)

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