On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 08:31 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le lundi 21 mai 2012, à 14:40 -0700, Roger Luedecke a écrit :
> > We included some extensions to fix some issues with Gnome. I wrote an
> > article on extensions, and would like to submit the listed extensions in
> > that article for consideration.
> > 
> > http://opensuseadventures.blogspot.com/2012/05/getting-most-of-your-gnome-shell-with.html
> 
> It would help to list them in the mail so we can easily argue
> for/against each of them :-)
> 
> In general, the fact that extensions are easily installable means that
> we really don't need most extensions by default. We only need them if
> they really fix a major issue.
> 
> Here's my opinion on the extensions you propose (and it's just my
> opinion):
> 
>  Alt-Tab switcher
>  => it's a matter of taste. I'm perfectly happy with the new behavior,
>     for instance, since I got used to it.
I like it too, but thought it was worth discussing. My vote would be to
keep with upstream.
> 
>  Alternative Status Menu
>  => that's the one we ship by default, because it annoyed too many
>    people to not have the Reboot/Power Off items. Not sure it still
>    works, though, since I disable it. We might need to take the version
>    from extensions.gnome.org
This was a great decision, and it still works.
> 
>  Network Connections
>  => you can remove connections from the control center now, so the main
>     use case is less important. Also, I think it's confusing to have
>     both Network Connections and Network Settings in the menu by
>     default.
I don't find this confusing at all... and a couple of clicks will
alleviate confusion. It took a lot of googling before I realized that it
was easy to find in the Activities overview. Hence why I recommend this.
> 
>  Remove the Accessibility Icon
>  => I don't think it's friendly to do this by default, as accessibility
>     user relies on this. But maybe we can ship the extension disabled by
>     default, given the number of people asking for this?
This was included in the blog since many people like it, but I agree...
there is no reason to include it by default.
> 
>  Notifications (that's just chat notifications)
>  => No opinion, might be useful in the short term, but I think upstream
>     wants to fix the core issue another way for 3.6.
Are we shipping 3.6 with this fix? If not, it is frankly a rather
crucial enhancement so that I don't miss messages when I go get a glass
of water.
> 
>  Calculator
>  => nice, but clearly not something we need by default :-)
No, but why not impress people?
> 
>  Media Player Indicator
>  => with media keys, I've never felt the need for this. What is the
>     experience of others?
I love this one, and though most players have similar functionality from
their tray icons, that involves playing chase the icon. Plus, this is
just slick... and so long as there isn't an app open the extension will
not display.
> 
>  Advanced Settings
>  => the advanced settings are not used often enough to be in the menu by
>     default, imho.
True enough, however it is good to make it more obvious... especially
since it has the extension management. The latter is my primary reason
since the extension management by webpage has been rightly criticized.
> 
>  Places Status Indicator
>  => probably nice, but not something I'd use by default.
True, but it is very very nicely done.
> 
> For the record, I don't think we should ship so many extensions by
> default. Having one or two is fine, but more might cause issues with
> updates, if it happens we have to ship a newer gnome-shell for instance.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Vincent
> 
> -- 
> Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.


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