Am Dienstag 02 November 2010, 07:42:20 schrieb Gerfried Fuchs:
>         Hi!
> 
> * Vincent Untz <[email protected]> [2010-11-01 20:51:51 CET]:
> >Le lundi 01 novembre 2010, à 20:27 +0100, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
> >>On Saturday 30 October 2010 16:59:21 Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
> >>>On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 17:01 +0200, S.Kemter wrote:
> >>>>Am Samstag 30 Oktober 2010, 15:37:16 schrieb Bryen M. Yunashko:
> >>>>>On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 09:47 +0200, jdd wrote:
> >>>>>> did you notice this?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2010/10/msg00096.html
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Are you subscribed to this list or is anyone else here subscribed?
> >>>>> I'd like to have a correction to that posting but don't want to
> >>>>> subscribe if i don't have to.  :-)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The post associated Vuntz with Ubuntu.   In fact, he's ours, not
> >>>>> theirs!  :-)   Can someone correct this?
> 
>  From what I can tell, Vincent is his own for a start, if any. :)
> 
> >>>> Had a little conversation with Rhonda after he published it, from his
> >>>> point of view he has right. So look after planet.ubuntu.com u can
> >>>> find there vuntz ;)
> >>> 
> >>> I don't understand.  How does he have the right to say Vuntz represents
> >>> Ubuntu?  He's one of our folks.
> 
>  I clearified it in my blog entry where I also posted it to:
> <http://rhonda.deb.at/blog/debian/report-opensuse.html>
> 
> > Right. I was involved in Ubuntu a while ago (2004-2006, I'd say, before
> > I chose to focus on GNOME), and I'm still an Ubuntu member. I'm
> > following what's happening there, because I have friends in the Ubuntu
> > world and because it's important for upstream GNOME.
> > 
> > That being said, I'm much more a GNOME/openSUSE person than a
> > Ubuntu/GNOME one (I'm using openSUSE, and I contributed much more to
> > openSUSE than to Ubuntu). I guess it's safe to say that I don't
> > represent Ubuntu in any way anymore, and I certainly wasn't at the
> > openSUSE conference with a Ubuntu hat :-)
> 
>  If it would make you lot feel better, I will send the same
> clearification to the mailinglist, too. Actually it seems that Vincent
> was there with as much Ubuntu hat as myself, or rather, me possibly more
> than him because I actually also have upload rights to Ubuntu.
> 
>  Still, frankly spoken, I am a fair bit astonished about the claiming
> that a person belongs to someone, especially exclusively, especially in
> the free software community. Yes, I should have done more research about
> Vincent, and I appoligize for not having done that, but the impression
> with Vincent's blog on Planet Ubuntu did lead to that, especially since
> planet ubuntu is explictly meant for ubuntu related stuff, like can be
> read in the Guidelines: <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu>
> 
> > If people absolutely want to give me a Ubuntu hat, then I should be
> > considered as a GNOME/openSUSE/Ubuntu person. And we could maybe add
> > some freedesktop.org stuff in there to be complete ;-)
> 
>  Right. I haven't claimed you to be exclusive, especially since I even
> stated Ubuntu/GNOME, and such exclusive thinking is in my personal
> opinion not really helping the overall though of "Collaboration across
> Borders". Actually the sort of responses somehow makes me think that
> collaboration might not really be appreciated, but then, this might also
> be a as skewed view as which I left with my report from the conference.
> 
> > cc'ing Gerfried so he knows about this.
> 
>  Thank you very much to give me the chance to explain how it came to
> this.
> 
>  Enjoy!
> Rhonda

Rhonda 

See there was a blogpost from Shuttleworth a lot of hot air in it, sending 
someone to the conference and pay for it. Did u see someone? I mean not vuntz, 
because he has a blog aggregated to planet.ubuntu.com.

The question is deserve ubuntu credit for being on conference, deserve ubuntu 
credit for collaborate across borders?

Many here think, they deserve it not, thats why this discussion came up.

br gnokii


p.s. I didnt saw in ur blogpost Mandriva/Mageia mentioned Collin Gulthrie was 
there ;)
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