Petr

I have not ever seen Canonical displaying their shares publicly that
does saves them a lot from competition. But thats my opinion.

Also, if an openSUSE Foundation maybe things will change regarding
Codecs and free stuff I am not sure..

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Pieter De Decker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I noticed that during the install openoffice.org is mentioned often
>> and repeatedly in the slides...
>
> I reported a related bug after testing openSUSE 11.4 RC2.
>
> "Office.desktop still uses the OpenOffice.org icon instead of the
> LibreOffice icon"
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675222
>
> Perhaps you can attach your information to that bug.
>
>> As for the codecs, if Users are directed to the Forums, there is
>> plenty of comment and direction why packages with various codecs
>> aren't included in base installs and where/how to get what they need.
>
> Yes, I know that this problem can be solved. But my point is this:
> it's a pain in the neck and it's a major hurdle for new users. As far
> as I know, Ubuntu has a restricted formats wizard that automates the
> install of these codecs. The user has to consent to the install of
> these proprietary closed-source codecs and confirm that their actions
> don't violate any copyright laws where they live. Why can Canonical
> get away with it when Novell can't? Is this because SUSE has its
> headquarters in Germany and therefore has to adhere to different
> copyright laws than most distributions?
>
> Pieter
>
> 2011/3/10 Tony Su <[email protected]>:
>> A brief comment relating to the subject of this thread, because
>> someone is going to mention it...
>>
>> I just completed installing 11.4 NET/LXDE and among the numerous
>> install idiosynchrosies related to doing the install through a WiFi
>> connection,
>>
>> I noticed that during the install openoffice.org is mentioned often
>> and repeatedly in the slides... But it looks like openoffice has been
>> removed entirely from the OSS, replaced by the fork libreoffice.
>> Personally, I know what's happening but be prepared for the many
>> people who are going to comment on that.
>>
>> Now, I've got to scrounge around for the place to post all those
>> anomalies and idiosynchrosies during my install that should have been
>> addressed during the Beta...
>>
>> As for the codecs, if Users are directed to the Forums, there is
>> plenty of comment and direction why packages with various codecs
>> aren't included in base installs and where/how to get what they need.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:56 PM, James Mason <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Pieter De Decker <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> And finally something else that causes friction for new openSUSE
>>>> users: it's a pain in the neck having to install proprietary support
>>>> for formats such as MP3. I know there are complicated copyright issues
>>>> involved with this, but if I recall correctly Ubuntu *does* offer an
>>>> easy way to install these codecs. It's just one of those little
>>>> annoyances I have with openSUSE. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a
>>>> hater... I'm just trying to think about how friction could be reduced
>>>> for new users.
>>>
>>> I'm only going to comment on this part...
>>>
>>> We do pulling the Fluendo MP3 codec for GStreamer, just like we pullin
>>> Adobe Flash Player. If you run OnlineUpdate during setup, as
>>> recommended, you'll have MP3 support right out of the gate.
>>>
>>> - James Mason 'bear454'
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