On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Ricardo Chung <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Monday, April 04, 2011 10:10:50 PM Chuck Payne wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Ricardo Chung <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> > On Monday, April 04, 2011 09:45:09 AM Henne Vogelsang wrote:
>> >> Hey,
>> >>
>> >> On 04.04.2011 16:12, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
>> >> > On 2011-04-01 Henne wrote:
>> >> >> On 04/01/2011 09:48 AM, Helen South wrote:
>> >> >>> The Aussie Ambassador, Tim Serong and I agree that a mailing list
>> >> >>> is the preferred means of communication for Australian users. With
>> >> >>> our presence in Australia growing stronger, a separate list for
>> >> >>> local discussion would allow us to activities and events without
>> >> >>> cluttering other lists.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do you really fear that? I mean the ambassadors list has on average
>> >> >> less then 100 mails a month. That makes roughly 3 mails a day. If
>> >> >> anything this list is on life support and needs more traffic to be
>> >> >> really useful don't you think?
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, three mails a day is nothing for you and me and spam for some.
>> >> > Anyway. So you think the dutch should send their mails via the
>> >> > ambassador list in dutch, like the greek and all other countries in
>> >> > their own language?
>> >>
>> >> No I don't. I'm trying to find out what you guys want and then serve the
>> >> best thing to you :) I get that you want a list to talk Dutch on with
>> >> your Dutch ambassador friends. But others want other things. Chuck wants
>> >> a list by region in the dominant language and Helen wants a list by
>> >> country. I'm just asking if you maybe can make up your (teams) minds.
>> >>
>> >> > I think each team should do what they prefer and if chuck wants a
>> >> > local USA ML, or an USA&Canada ML, he should ask it and get it :D
>> >>
>> >> We can make the confusion perfect and do that. I don't care! :) The
>> >> marketing team operates a mess of communication channels anyway. Just
>> >> look at the three lists you have now. Separate lists for deeply
>> >> connected topics, some of it with almost no traffic, a lot of
>> >> cross-posting because no one knows whats the right forum is to reach the
>> >> right people etc. We can add language, region and country list to the
>> >> mix no problem! Just make up your minds :)
>> >>
>> >> Henne
>> >
>> > I am reading these mail issues with country-language-topics.
>> >
>> > This is only an idea and maybe sure someone already explored it.
>> >
>> > We can add our favorite languange-country before the topic to the subject
>> > in the list we are subscribed. So anyone which is not interested on that
>> > country or language convesation can filter them easily. The cons is
>> > people could forget to write it that way.
>> >
>> > the good stuff is there is no more mailing list to manage than we already
>> > have and we want to step  in other country or language because we find
>> > something we can contribute or learn from it will be easy to read with
>> > only one subscription.
>> >
>> > Best.
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>> > Panama
>> >
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>> Guys.
>>
>> I see Helen point for Aussie List. The reason I wanted my list wasn't
>> to take away from main list, but a tool to reach out to the Ambassador
>> in North America (Mexico, US, and Canada) on events that are coming up
>> and seeing who can do what or go. More and more I am seeing it just be
>> best I set up list myself. I didn't think asking for a tool would have
>> cause such a headache.
>
> Chuck,
>
> I don't think it was a bad idea and I really understand what are you trying to
> do with that list and the concerns about the isolated group from the main
> international project too.
>

Again, no one getting it. I am not trying to isolated, but when you
are trying to set up people for SELF, I don't need to hear how or
comment some another part of the world that doesn't know what going
on. It would be a great tool for me to reach out to just the North
America people on North American Events.

> Your concerns and other have are legitimate and we need to find a good viable
> and easy solution.

If it were so legitimate it would have been set up with out any fuss,
but to many want to be chiefs and not Indians.


> We want a permanent solution to these issues and high traffic on mailing list
> complaints from other people not interested in other countries or languages
> issues.
>

Me too. I like to see North America good, but it ok, I will come up
with my own tools.

> Regards,
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> Panama
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