On Tuesday 24 May 2011 10:20:05 Klaas Freitag wrote: > Hi, > > Am Dienstag 24 Mai 2011, 00:09:32 schrieb Jos Poortvliet: > > > > The current workflow seriously needs to be fixed. > > > > > > true or not, not really on-topic here, we (as in the marketing team) > > > won't be fixing it ;-) > > > > PS feel free to kick adrian in the balls if you have issues, but if you > > take that litterally I recommend you kick hard to make sure he can't come > > after you ;-) > > In this case it will be me and others coming after you, believe me.
sweet :D > Is > that btw the kind of speach and behaviour you're appreciating here in > the marketing group, smiley or not? Ok, it is a joke, maybe a weird one... Appologies, I'll try and better my life & watch my language. > > Serious, workflow things need fixing indeed, but what he needs is > > CONCRETE SUGGESTIONS. Not of the type "fix it" or even "this and this > > doesn't make sense" but "this works like this now. It makes more sense > > if it would work like this. See a mock up I made". > > Very true. As being a developer I can tell you that people stepping up with > the message "Your software would be great if feature ABC would be there and > I can tell you how to do it but will not do it!" are more demotivating to > fix something than you would expect. > > > The coding doesn't take much time > > Nice dreams of marketing ;-) Well, I'm exaggerating, I know the coding takes serious time... > > - it is the thinking about what the best solution is that takes a lot > > of time. And that exactly is what people could help with if they > > were willing to put in a little more thought. > > Hmm, I disagree, sorry to contradict. Better do what the FOSS world > moves forever: Write patches, either on code or marketing material, > does not matter. Convert ideas to code or texts or artwork, whatever, but > do not post them purely on MLs hoping that others will pick up. People who > really do things usually have enough ideas of what they want to do. They > never wait for others posting an idea to make them doing something. Of course. But notice most ppl here really are no coders :D From most devs I talk to I often hear that thinking about workflow, about UI, can take a lot of time. Especially if you want to get it really right, and Adrian is a perfectionist as I've heard... So a concrete suggestion for a workflow improvement is very valuable esp compared to a vague "make it more logical" kind of statement... Especially considering what might be logical to a developer is not to a packager or an user :D > regards, > > Klaas
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