On Tuesday 24 May 2011 22:57:12 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > On Tuesday 24 May 2011 16:23:20 Izabel Valverde wrote: > > 2011/5/24 jdd <[email protected]> > > > > > Le 24/05/2011 13:12, Okuro Okiawa a écrit : > > >> Hence, openSUSE has to be presented as an easy and comfortable > > >> solution for your work to take away the "fear" of some people of > > >> "damaging" anything when they touch their OS... > > > > > > be warned that openSUSE is *not* designed for dummies (no Linux is). > > > It's nice to be installed to your friend that can ask you for help. I > > > real newbie will not use openSUSE if not preinstalled and configured. > > > > > > jdd > > > > Hi jdd, > > > > I strongly disagree with your words or better saying quote! If is not > > for dummies how can we explain the success case in elementary schools > > or in digital inclusion projects? > > > > If we still defending that linux is not for everyone we always will > > live like now with bunch of people with closed mind or worst thinking > > that are superior just because run linux or whatever in their own pc. > > > > It's time to change our minds and if you need a close case I can show > > you a school full of newbies that make TV, Radio, Publicity and much > > more using linux as their base. > > > > We all should think about it... or at least write in a different way ;-) > > The thing that is limiting us is not Linux itself. openSUSE is not per-se > harder than Windows. But it doesn't have the vendor support, it doesn't > have the neighboor-next-door who can help and it is unfamiliar. And you > can't easily buy a PC with it. And it is seen as 'different' so if > something goes wrong, you blame linux (while if something goes wrong with > Windows most ppl blame themselves). > > It is more of a cultural issue, not a technical one. But that doesn't > change the fact that JDD is indeed right. If linux is to have a chance, > it's gonna be with professionals (the ones we target!) and on dumbed-down > devices like tablets (which the openSLX/KDE/Plasma Active team is > targeting). > > Just my 2 cents on this issue :D >
Sorry Jos but I think this is wrong, my parents and my brother all use Linux they don't need to know how it works only that it does work. When they want to burn a DVD they load K3b, when they want to connect to wifi network they click network manager. IT Professionals most likely use bash so therefore what's the point of KDE/Gnome? Why bother using wifi? IT Professionals probably use Ethernet? Unless we get Linux out to the masses we will never get hardware support. How much hardware support to Microsoft Dos v 1 have? OK we hare now nearly on 12, and look how far we have come. Yes there is a long way to go, but unless we market our product with its STRENGTHS and not its WEAKNESSES what is the point of a marketing team at all? Who are we marketing to? other Linux users? small market to keep infighting - we need to look outside to the big wide world and focus on them. Let the professionals use Enterprise and lets focus our open efforts on the open world... > > Izabel > > > > > -- > > > http://www.dodin.net > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg > > > http://jdd.blip.tv/ > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] -- Kind Regards Stuart Tanner Bolton Linux Delivering openSUSE Retail to the UK 24 Vincent Street Bolton BL1 4SA Tel: +44-1204-410474 Mob: +44-7868-028028 www.bolin.org.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
