On Friday, May 27, 2011 06:59:21 PM Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 17:19 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 22, 2011 06:04:58 AM Chuck Payne wrote:
> > > {ATTENTION} Please pass this a long to your friends that this might
> > > effect/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sorry for the cross post but I want to make sure everyone knows that
> > > we will be updating the Facebook following openSUSE Group.
> > > 
> > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=762429462#!/group.php?gid=225683
> > > 4487
> > > 
> > > Once we update to the new group format,  all currently a member  will
> > > need to rejoin. We currently have over 5,500 members, and there is no
> > 
> > Chuck, I'm confused.
> > 
> > The page still says "This group is scheduled to be archived" - and I did
> > not need to get re-added.
> > 
> > So, is the group now converted to the new format or not?
> > 
> > Andreas
> 
> Unfortunately, this is a big mess caused by Facebook themselves.  Chuck
> and I have both re-read several times what the message from Facebook
> meant and the text is quite misleading.  This email announcement was
> unfortunately premature and misleading (fault of Facebook for putting in
> vague text) because we cannot "re-join" but rather we can only join
> somewhere else.  Read more below...
> 
> Some time ago, Facebook introduced Pages (replacing the old Fan Pages)
> and encouraged large organizations to move from Groups to Pages.  Many,
> including ourselves, chose to stick with Groups because of its
> flexibility that Pages didn't offer.    Facebook is now taking a
> proactive strong-arm tactic to force those that should be on Pages to
> move from Groups.
> 
> Therefore, as you re-read the text a few times you'll see its clear that
> while Facebook says they'll archive you unless you upgrade to the new
> Groups format, they are not allowing everyone to do that, including
> openSUSE.   Therefore, there will be no new Group for Facebook for
> openSUSE, however we can choose to maintain the old group in its
> archived fashion.  Simply put, Facebook rejects our Group because we are
> too large.

> [...]

What a mess. :-(

Since Chuck send out an announcement broadly that we switch the group, I 
suggest that we also send out an announcement that Facebook failed to do so 
;-(

Bryen, thanks for trying to followup with Facebook on some of these points but 
let's make in the next days some kind of announcement on how to move forward 
and not wait forever.

Thanks,
Andreas
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