On Wednesday 16 January 2013 11:24:09 Chuck Payne wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Izabel Valverde > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > 2013/1/15 Jos Poortvliet <[email protected]> > > > >> Heya all, > >> > >> Many of you have helped in the last 3-4 releases with writing the > >> 'feature guide' or 'product highlights' and release announcements. You > >> know it is not an easy task - as a matter of fact, it's a huge amount > >> of work. > >> > >> With 11.4 and 12.1 we had a reasonably collaborative process, but even > >> then we had almost no input from the actual package maintainers (for > >> whom it is very easy to record what changes there are in their > >> software). Instead, we had to go through long lists of packages, > >> trying to find out what is new. > >> > >> Obviously, this doesn't really work. I've asked (as usual) if > >> maintainers/packagers will add changes in their software to the wiki > >> here: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features > >> > >> but honestly, I don't really expect that to work very well. I would > >> appreciate it if you kick developers you know, it would make a > >> difference. If however it again boils down to a handful of people who > >> barely know anything about the software having to go through all the > >> packages, we will have to change how we work. How - I don't really > >> know. > >> > >> Maybe we can change the policy on submitting things to Factory, like > >> requiring a link to an upstream changelog on major releases or > >> anything. > >> Maybe you all have suggestions - ideas on improving this process are > >> really welcome. > >> > >> The most important thing are of course changes really developed by and > >> for openSUSE - even those we often miss, like ownCloud integration in > >> openSUSE 12.1 (I heard about it 3 days before the release. Doesn't > >> that make you cry?). Again - we need a way to find and describe > >> them... > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > >> Jos > > > > Hey Jos, Hello all, > > > > I believe the best way to get the contribution of our > > supporters/manteiners/pacakgers would ask them what would be the > > easiest way to help us find what's new. Explaining to them that we are > > somewhat difficult to get this information they might suggest in how > > best to seek except in seeking > > https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features > > > > I know this should have already been done but maybe a new call to help > > us a bit more... We don't want to give an extra task for them, just an > > indication of how to look without disrupting their work. Instead we > > suggest would be better suggestion coming from them. > > > > Developers make our gold and we will outshine :-D > > > > With a single hint coming now would be helpful. I believe they would do > > that. > > > > Just a thought, > > > > Izabel > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > To contact the owner, e-mail: [email protected] > > Hey I am willing to help, do we have a site we can work on together > for this, like the old days?
For now, adding things to https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features is good. During the Hackaton I think we should simply move the content from that page to the final location wile keeping the Major_features page open for additions. I added some stuff from the kernel for example, which is already perfectly OK for the full feature guide... So yeah, help there is welcome. Anything you know or can find out can be added there.
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