Jan Beulich wrote:

>>>> On 24.11.16 at 13:51, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jan Beulich wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> On 22.11.16 at 07:50, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> i just installed our first Leap 42.2 DomU and as i wanted to adapt
>>>> our usual scriptset i noticed, that the settings for independent
>>>> wallclock seem to be missing.
>>>> While the doc is stating that independent wallclock settings should
>>>> apply for Leap 42.2, /proc/sys/xen is not showing the appropriate
>>>> file.
>>>> 
>>>> /proc/sys/xen # ls
>>>> balloon
>>>> 
>>>> Has something gone wrong during installation, or is the
>>>> documentation faulty?
>>> 
>>> I don't think the pv-ops kernel has ever supported the concept of
>>> independent wallclock as configurable behavior. If you observe any
>>> misbehavior without it, please open a bug.
>> 
>> We started switching to independent wallclock when systemd was
>> introduced - systemd kept complaining about the clock being adjusted
>> or something like that.
> 
> Over time we had kernel problems in that area, so much would
> depend on when exactly you found it necessary to switch. 

Judging by my mailing list postings, I think we started in March 2015. 
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-virtual/2015-03/msg00020.html

> Also I don't think your reply really demonstrates any observed
> misbehavior with the pv-ops kernel, yet that's the only criteria
> based upon which fixing that kernel or considering to re-introduce
> that control would become possible routes forward.

We observed ntp-related poor behaviour by systemd, that's all.  Hundreds
of message being written about "Time has been changed".  Switching to
local ntp and independent wallclock solved the issue. 

>> After a lot of research, we switched to using
>> independent_wallclock for all guests.  Afair, this was/is also the
>> SUSE/Novell recommendation.
> 
> Not as far as I know. As long as there are no bugs, running e.g. NTP
> once in Dom0 would seem the more efficient model compared to
> running it in every DomU. But of course I don't know who gave this
> recommendation, and in which context that was.

http://www.novell.com/documentation/vmserver/config_options/data/b9qzhq5.html
https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/virtualization/html/book.virt/sec.kvm.managing.clock.html

"To effectively use an external time source, such as NTP, for time
synchronization on a virtual machine, the virtual machine's independent
wallclock setting must be enabled (set to 1)."

Perhaps not a recommendation, but given that systemd didn't like the
domU just relying on the Dom0 clock, using running ntp in the DomU and
enabling independent wallclock was a solution. 

https://wiki.debian.org/Xen/Clocksource
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-virtual/2015-03/msg00022.html

I remember finding it very difficult to get any solid information on
this topic.  


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Per Jessen, Zürich (9.9°C)

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