On Friday 24 February 2006 11:37, q uestion wrote: > --- houghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, obviously openSUSE.org is _the_ portal for > > openSUSE.org. openSUSE is > > the comunity, so as a comunity it is up to US, > > members of the comunity to make that site. > > This is exactly what I was afraid of: black/white > thinking. We don't have Novell staff support to just > ignore it and hope the community can make OpenSuSE > solid in a few years. OpenSuSE is still in infant > state and needs all the support it can get. It is not > a shame to get the help from Novell in community > style.
I think you're missing something... the community doesn't just include the users, but developers at Novell as well. Its a joint effort. Not community + Novell, but that people at Novell are a part of this community. A very important, and involved, part. > > Making a comunity and a comunity site that goes with > > it is not something that will be done in a matter of > > days or perhaps even weeks. It will take > > some time, sorry. > > That is no excuse for ignoring where OpenSuSE comes > from and the support offerd exactly for the startup > period. Novell/SuSE knows OpenSuSE is for the > community, they invented the project and support it! > Using the offered help and knowledge will for sure > help to meet the goals, that is why it is offerd. > Using this help may not feel like OpenSuSE is fully > community, but ignoring it is gambling with OpenSuSE, > the community and the goals. What houghi is saying is that you don't put something out there and instantly get a community, a community is something that starts small-ish, and grows. I'd say that I'm very impressed with the current status of the community and its growth. > > I asume that discussion will begin somewhere after > > FOSDEM. It will hopefully be a discussion and a > > process where the Novell marketing people > > have at most a guiding role. The site is NOT a > > marketingtool for Novell > > (at least not directly) it is a place for the > > openSUSE comunity. > > Using help from Novell does not make OpenSuSE a direct > marketingtool, even if the help is more then just > guiding. Not only because OpenSuSE is a community thus > the community decides what will be acceptable, but > also because Novell depends on OpenSuSE to work in > community form. Read above comment on Novell employees being part of the community. > Tim Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
