On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 05:49:16PM +0200, jdd wrote:
> to summarise, I don't change anything in the layout. the
> goal was to make the hole page fit in 800x600 screen
That is the wrong goal. I know you have been going on how SUSE should be
workable with older PC's. The goal should howver be to make it workable in
every size.
Due to this, I now have a left to right movement as well.
> I reduce the number of sidebar entries (and reworked
> accordingly the content of the menu pages).
The `Page de Garde` links to itself, why?
There are not enough links in the Utiliser part
> I also add an image of the 10.1 box in the upcomming events
> place :-)
Wich most likely is the cause of the left to right movement I am able to
do now.
<snip>
> Note that on the right part of the screen, I only report
> things having a meaning for french readers.
French as a language or as a country? If you say as a language, then you
asume e.g. Belgians, Swiss and Canadians (among others) are not interested
in any other things or are too stupid to understand them. Please let them
decide for themselves.
> I think more and more than an important part of the
> community work can only made in english and so on the
> english wiki.
It should be the goal from the community to be one community, not 650
small ones devided by either Language or country. See below.
> it's of little use to translate all the pages
> on build system, bugzilla stuff or development
> participation, because nobody who don't at least read
> english can participate to these things.
Then the pages need to be translated. The only workable solutions is to
work, at least for development, in one langyuage. That language is
English.
> Localised wikis are very good for beginners, end user
> documentation, tips and tricks,download...
Not if parts of it are on one language and others are on another.
> and to speak bask about front page, I really would like to
> have a wikipedia like main page for all wikis (with all
> these little flags on a nice lizard), but I'm definitively
> NOT an artmaker, sorry :-)))
As a person living in Belgium, these flags are the most stupid invention
ever. Flags are countries, langages are not. Will you have a Belgium flag?
If so, to what language will it point? If not, why don't you give the
Belgians their own flag?
I am sorry, but I think it is in whole a bad idea, especially to put it on
the frontpage at this stage. It would have been better to put it on the
designated page for this discussion.
openSUSE should have one look and part of that look is the (now bad)
layout of the frontpage. If feel that localisation should be about the
langage and the language alone. Making each langage look different will
not help.
The English version should be a central point of translation. Meaning that
when somebody changes something on the "en" pages, oothers should
translate it. When somebody translates something on a "fr" page, this
change should be done as soon as possible to the "en" pages, so that other
translations have the information as well.
I admire your will to change things, I do not like the direction you want
to go. Please understand that this is not a flame. It is just my point of
view.
houghi
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