Am Samstag, 13. Mai 2006 16:07 schrieb jdd:
> Olaf Hannemann wrote:
> > I think, we shouldn't change the Layout completely, but for the use of
> > Interwiki Links and things like that it would be fine if the German
> > http://de.opensuse.org/Dokumentation looks like the English  master wiki
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Documentation.
>
> I'm not so sure of that. we must take account of the fact
> that the en wiki is the older one, and this mean it's in
> great part obsolete or made of superposed planes, and it's
> the more difficult to fix.
In this case I think the German page is the older one. (the English one 
changed some time ago, but the German doesn't follow) I would like to have a 
page where links are easy to find. and not clicking Dokumentation -> Benutzer 
Dokumentation -> Start für neue Benutzer ....and so on. Clicking 
Dokumentation must show up the main topics. I don't want to worry about 
questions like "is it  a Novell, a SUSE, a User or something else 
documentation". I want to find the topic I was looking for. So even the FAQs 
and things like these must be easy to find.

> the download page is so a mess I could not accept to keep it
> like it is. I myself revamped quite heavily this part, see
> http://fr.opensuse.org/Téléchargement
Ack!

> Of course, if a real discussion arise and the english page
> get a clear and wondefull aspect, I will follow it. as long
> as this is not the case I would be glad to see ideas in the
> others wikis
Didn't want to say we must do every thing like in the en wiki but I think the 
main pages like Front page, Documentation page ..etc should look something 
simular. Changing this should be a general discussion. The content may be 
different.

> > Another aspect is, that the user can easily switch between the languages
> > and find everything in the place he is used to.
> few users really switch langages. an anglish reading user is
> free to use the en page if he find it better.
Don't know for real. I'm used to look on the German site. If I don't find it 
there I switch to the English site and this happens very often.

> I personnally think than simplicity must be the key and that
> the front page must be simpler than whats it is now.
Full Ack

> anyway localized wikis have in my opinion a quite different
> goal from the english one. Fort example, I do not translate
> the developpement version page. It's not entirely a choice,
> I only choiced not to make them a priority. anyway, people
> interested in this have to read english.
Ack! I think developers and translators should be able to read English 
documentation. But.... the links should work. They don't on the de-site.

Regards,
Olaf

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