On Thursday 01 March 2007 16:28:20 Frank Sundermeyer wrote: > Here are my 2 cents. I will try to structure this mail, because I think > we are facing several different problems.
A very clear analysis of all the problems, I think; a lot better than I could hope to. ;-) > Namespaces: I'm not sure namespaces are the solution, mainly because of all the cons mentioned. > Categories: > * Pro > - everybody can invent new categories > - it's easy to assign a document to a category > - a document can belong to several categories > - standard Wiki tool > * Contra > - search cannot be limited to categories > - since everybody can invent new categories, their number is > constantly growing Categories are something that have to be adopted IMO, but they're not, on their own, the solution. I think it also has to be a case of presentation, otherwise categorisation just turns into an indexing portal project. > Portal pages: > * Pro > - everybody can invent new portal pages > - can target different audiences > - no layout / content restrictions > * Contra > - since everybody can invent new portal pages, their number is > constantly growing > - it's difficult to get an overview of all portal pages A portal is an index. On its own, again, it's not going to be all a user needs. Most successful open source project-related wikis I know end up being so because they really crack down on what can actually go on there. The pages that are frequented become popular, and it becomes *the* location for finding out particular bits of information, and hence encourages the centralisation. This is the case for a few articles on the openSUSE wiki, but it is by no means the case for all openSUSE related information. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 3. Different target groups > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Especially when creating portal pages we need to know which target > groups we would like to address. This will not only affect the content > of the portal pages, but probably the way it is presented to the user > as well (e.g. procedure vs. list vs. table, ...). This is going to go into my last point as well, but I really think we should get feedback from a lot of users on the wiki, how they use it, and why it might fail specifically for their purpose, and get in suggestions. > ==> Conclusions / Action Items: > > - discuss target groups topic Why don't we arrange an IRC meeting to discuss these topics? They've proven to be pretty useful/productive in the past, and it would be a great way of getting a lot of people (who I know as well) care quite a bit about this issue; this includes some admins from susewiki.org, several people on the forums, and quite a few people I know on IRC. In fact, I'd probably say a very large chunk of the community. A lot of people complaining, but not doing anything; this way we can give them something quite precisely on what to do :). This way we can all brainstorm together and then have quite a few people who will be ready to get involved with executing whatever we conclude. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros Website: http://francis.giannaros.org IRC: apokryphos on irc.freenode.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
