On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:59:45PM +0200, houghi wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:41:28PM +0200, Robert Schiele wrote: > > You mean you want the 5 CD set? Well, in that case you need the appropriate > > jigdo file from the same directory. boot.jigdo is the one to create the > > network install image. > > Now I am confused. I thought jigdo would make some differences between an > old version and a new version.
You could do such things with jigdo as well but as SUSE rebuilds all packages between the betas this is of no help. > > I _don't_ consider this as an alternative to the delta images but as an > > alternative to downloading full blown ISO images. The delta images should > > stay because they are are very good solution. > > Uhm. What will the impact for me as a user be? Why would I use this > instead of the ISO's? Unless you can guarantee a simple click-click for > the the end-user, they will want iso's Are you now talking about delta images or about jigdo files? > If openSUSE would decide to drop the ISO's and go completely for jigdo, > people will see this as unuserfriendly. As being userfriendly is one of > the main goals, this should not be done. I wouldn't consider it user-friendly if the mirror servers break down on every release. And I think if most users just download the whole ISO image when there are smarter solutions by just doing one step more but saving much bandwidth, then I think Eberhard is right in the first place: The full images should not be provided to force people learning new technology. I mean most people can operate spread-sheet applications nowadays although they are _ways_ more complicated because they have no option. If people don't learn because they have an option that is a little bit simpler but produce costs for the whole community then these people must be forced to learn. Let's see when Thomas has his simple Windows GUI implemented. I mean then there is no longer an argument. If people fail to copy _one_ URL into a simple Windows GUI, do you think they are capable of installing an operating system? > With that I see no advantage for the enduser to use it if I can just click > on either a torrent or iso link. I see that mirrors would need less space, > but users will not like to use it. I see no advantage for me when you don't give me suitcase with 5 million Dollars. I see that you might not have so much money, but I will not like to see this. --- Got my point. > So from the mirrors point of view: good > >From the users point of view: bad > > Who are you making the distro for? Who is providing support for distributing the stuff to the end user. If users are _that_ inflexible mirror admins could be as well. In my opinion someone that is not even willing to do some really simple steps to get the image should just go to a shop and buy an official package from SUSE. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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