-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Girardet wrote: ... > proper thread about this and forget the derailed past thread, is there > anything that this community sees we can do to better the situation now, > so that Eberhard and gwdg.de won't be killed when we announce?
I don't see many options for beta4, it is out into the wild in a few hours' time. Nevertheless, we can try to find options for RC1. > I personally apologize to Eberhard if my posts caused further stress to > him and it certainly was not my intention to provoke him to flame me. Well, I don't want to put further flame into that, but I've always known Eberhard as someone who's very friendly, very helpful and technically savvy. BTW, Eberhard, thanks again for all your hard work, we (almost) all very much appreciate what you are doing :) > I really feel for Eberhard and his frustration is just a symptom for a > problem that weMUST solve as a community. I'm not sure whether that's something we must solve as a /community/. Maybe that's something that Novell/SUSE must solve as a /business/. SUSE Linux is heavily relying on ftp.gwdg.de as its main distribution mirror and I don't understand why Novell wouldn't sponsor a dedicated server. The costs are pretty much peanuts. All we can do is torrent, torrent, torrent. I've downloaded beta1 and beta2 through torrent, then beta3 through http because I wanted to see the difference in performance. While it is true that torrent is slower, we should use torrent nevertheless to reduce the load on gwdg.de. Are we really all /that/ impatient that we can't wait for one more day before we upgrade to beta4 ? Maybe we should all think about it for a second and download beta4 with ktorrent or azureus. I definately will. Now, even if everyone on this list goes with bittorrent, that won't reduce the gwdg.de load much (but let's do it nevertheless ;)). So, spread the word around that everyone should first try to download with torrent and if the download rate is acceptable (above 5kb/s ;)), stick with that. I'll definately tell anyone who's asking on #opensuse. > I can personally offer a server to be online at the same time as the > announcement is done (as I have access to the iso's), but to be honest > it is not near as grunty as Eberhard's server, but maybe all together we > can make a difference? And I can get the torrent live as soon as the > announcement is done. That would at least be a local mirror in .nz But yet, unless you have at least 5mbit/s upload rate, most users will want to have it "faster" and go for gwdg.de. Once a few mirrors have synched, the situation already should improve as far as load on gwgd.de is concerned. At least ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/opensuse/distribution is a very fast option. But will it really help to drop the load from gwdg.de ? I'm not sure. Most users will go to http://www.opensuse.org, click download and they end up on gwdg.de. Maybe the redirection should balance on gwdg.de and uni-erlangen.de, to the very least, once that mirror has synched. So, to me, the main issue (besides the size of the distrbution being huge, as Eberhard already wrote) is that mirrors are one or two days behind when a beta/RC is released. > What else can we/you do? Not much, really, beta4 is there in 2 hours' time and even for RC1, the schedule is really, really short. 1) have Novell sponsor a server for gwdg.de 2) delay the announcement of RC1 until at least a few mirrors have synched (but that means 1 or maybe even *2* days after the target date on the roadmap, which isn't really an option either) 3) use torrent and encourage everyone to use torrent To me, (3) is the only realistic possibility although most people will still go for the http/ftp download via opensuse.org's download page. It's pretty obvious to everyone but: the more use torrent, the better it scales. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFDFqFpr3NMWliFcXcRAp5dAJY5RS2YNvjJs5qGvnOcDalOxEwnAJ9EWGe0 READ+1eTEhl5FZ1Aqu/kbw== =ggnF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
