Hello team

Since while I sleep you are all fantastically active and when you sleep
I am awake :D ..... I thought that rather than joining into this
discussion I can be more of a project secretary. But I do not make
coffee ;) ..... It would not make sense for me to simple reply to many
posts 12 hours after the discussion has happened ...... and I see all my
ideas represented anyhow.

I have edited http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Packager and added
whatever I could to several categories to start structure the
discussion. 

1 Packager Brainstorming

1.1 General ideas
1.2 Buildservers
1.3 Repositories
1.4 A packagers world
1.5 Users World
1.6 Packages



I can already see some consensus already happening. The single
diverting comment from single people is as in all statistics something
that goes under and can be eliminated as statistically irrelevant
further on.

We have a lot of combined experience here and all really good
innovative ideas. In general I would think that no idea should be
discarded at this stage, since we really have to think outside the
square and not just replicate what other distro's do. By simple
replication we will not in any way be better or more innovative. Of
course there are things that we just have to do to MHO do not restrict
your brain to think that only because it has not been done before or is
a lot of work something should not be done. If Linus would have thought
that way, I am kind of sure we would not even have this discussion on
this mailing list today.  Let's rather think ideal world first and then
once we assess how much resources are required to get this ideal world
and how many resources we do de facto have, can we start chipping away
at the goal and restrict it. After all I am convinced that if our idea
(as in ideal world concept) is that good and potent other people will
join and make it happen as we see every day with many great ideas. No
idea is too much work unless you have already decided in your mind that
you will fail.

I see openSUSE and SUSE Linux 1(0) as a great chance to innovate for
the sake of the entire Linux community. Let's all think this is special
..... and learn from the others, but go beyond the others.


I know this is easier said than done, but we need to start somewhere.


A few areas I am personally interested to hear a bit more about:

- How is a webinterface for packagers and users going to look like?
- How could a webinterface interface with yast?
- Is rpm really the end of all package systems? What is missing?
- How could a packager be helped to make his life easier?
- How could we attract more maintainers of other distro's and have
output compiled for us?

Review the website as these are just a few points I am interested in.
 



Regards,

Andreas Girardet
Consulting Architect

Novell, Inc., the leading provider of information solutions
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