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Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote:
>> Is SUSE Linux open source or is it not? I know that it includes some 
>> less than open source software but so do most other distros.
> You just answered your question: it includes some proprietary packages
> (such as Opera, Real Player, Text Maker, Plan Maker, Acrobat Reader)
> hence it isn't open source.
> The same could be said about those "other distros" that you claim also
> include proprietary software.
> That said, I think it would be very easy to create an open source
> version of SuSE Linux, removing all proprietary components (which,
> AFAICT, are all optional).

More confusion around...

Please use the mailing-list archive to read previous mails of this thread, I 
think it has been
answered extensively, especially by Christoph Thiel, Peter Flodin and Andreas 
Jaeger:
http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Sep/0588.html
http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Sep/0594.html
http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Sep/0653.html
http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Sep/0591.html

There already _is_ an opensource version of SUSE Linux: that's the one you 
downloaded the ISOs on
the internet, it's the "SUSE Linux OSS" distribution.
It does _not_ include proprietary packages like Opera, Realplayer, ...

The "other" distribution is "SUSE Linux", sold as a boxed set (soon for 10.0, 
has been announced
recently). It's actually the same as "SUSE Linux OSS" + some proprietary 
packages like Realplayer
and Java.

Note that for the "SUSE Linux OSS" distribution, you can still install Java and 
similar stuff, but
you have to download the packages from the Internet, separately, as they are 
not included in the
ISOs. Actually, just add the "inst-source" and "inst-source-java" directories 
on HTTP or FTP mirrors
(they're at the same place you downloaded the ISOs from) as installation source 
in YaST2 and then
you have access to them.

Although it may sound like a few of us are splitting hairs, please please 
please be careful with the
terms that you use.
There are 3 different things:
- - openSUSE: it's _not_ the distribution, it's the community effort, the wiki, 
etc...
- - SUSE Linux OSS: the SUSE Linux version you can download on the internet, 
that only includes
OpenSource software
- - SUSE Linux: the retail version that you can buy as a boxed set, that's SUSE 
Linux OSS + some
non-opensource packages included (Java, Realplayer, Acrobat, ...)

cheers
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  -o) Pascal Bleser     http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/
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