-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Cooper wrote: > On 05/10/05, Alistair Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am sure that I read somewhere that 10.0 was to support installation >> into Reiser 4 partitions. Has this been abandoned?
Noone from Novell ever said that Reiser4 was supported on 10.0. What has been said is that the kernel modules and the userspace tools for Reiser4 would be included, but that's it. No installation support, no support in YaST2's partitioner. I think it's fine like that, Reiser4 needs some more testing before you can throw it at regular end-users. Stability first ;) > I read on the Novell forums about this. > Apparently it's not a supported part of the kernel yet and the reason > for this is Mr (Dr, Professor ??) Reiser has a history of dropping > work on the fs as soon as it's part of the kernel and then the kernel > team have to do it. > With v4 they don't want to do this and it's turned into bit of a > pis*ing contest. Indeed. The threads on lkml (the Linux kernel mailing-list) got really nasty and it has become some mud-throwing contest, as almost always with Hans Reiser (and a few other people on lkml's ego). Well, as often, being an excellent developer/architect/engineer doesn't mean you have good social skills. Nevertheless, Reiser4 will not be included into Linus' kernel (a.k.a. the "vanilla" kernel). At least not anytime soon. But that doesn't mean that vendors won't include it, like SUSE always did with ReiserFS 3 long before it got included into the vanilla kernel (IIRC). But that decision is up to Novell, because they do the installation support for SUSE Linux, and if their engineers think it's not ready for prime-time *yet*, then have confidence that their choice is technically well-founded. So, if you know what you're doing and if you're fine with screwing up your installation... then you could use Reiser4, test it, and contribute your experiences to everyone ;) Basically, to install SUSE Linux 10.0 on Reiser4 partitions, you'd have to proceed as follows (DISCLAIMER: I haven't tried to do so, it's just how I think it could work ;)): - - boot from the installation ISO (or netinstall or whatever) - - _before_ you set up the partitioning in YaST2, switch to a console (ALT+F2 or ALT+F4, AFAICR) - - use fdisk, cfdisk (whatever is available) and the Reiser4 userspace tools to set up your partitions and format them with Reiser4 - - then you should be able to only set up the mountpoints in YaST2's partitioner, _without formatting_ (make sure there's no "F" flag) At least, I hope it works this way ;) The only issue one could have (and which would prevent installing onto Reiser4 partitions) is if YaST2's partitioner (at installation time) doesn't recognize the Reiser4 format and doesn't set up /etc/fstab accordingly. Well, you could still work around that, but it would get a little tougher. Another (albeit more complex) option would be to have a "normal" SUSE 10.0 installation (e.g. on ReiserFS3/ext3/XFS) and, from there, use YaST2's partitioner (because it's much more convenient to use than (c)fdisk) to create one or more new partitions (I'd advise doing that on LVS, much easier to manage), not format them, apply the partition setup, then use the Reiser4 userspace tools to format that/those new partition(s) as Reiser4 and.. finally... use YaST2's "install into directory" feature. Some more GRUB hacking and you could then boot your SUSE 10.0 on Reiser4. Ok, the latter option definately involves quite some work, but that would be the last option if anything else fails ;) > I personally don't know any more than that and am not in a position to > say which side is right or wrong. If I'm wrong on any part please > correct me. You're not ;) I guess you read the same mudfight between Hans Reiser and Christoph Hellwig as I did. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _\_v FOSDEM 2006 -- 25+26 February 2006 in Brussels -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDQ58fr3NMWliFcXcRAm+IAJ43yd3f4Ii0EUh7zHlemxd7ZIA8JACcCpHL QpceLsmh0QtdXH3fhYU1kFw= =5Hbb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
