On Monday 10 October 2005 06:38, nordi wrote:
> houghi wrote:
> > I have a solution for this bug. Just turn it off by default. Problem
> > solved. <Ducks> ;-)
>
> People have suggested that before, and that suggestion got rejected.
> Have a look at bug #117676 for example.

Hi All,

I'm submitting my last comments on this subject, as I've had a chance to sleep 
and mull the discussion over.

1. There are two competing camps, default 'on' and default 'off'. Each has 
precedents, facts and a rational purpose behind them, meaning there is no 
clear "right way" or "wrong way" when the conflict is viewed as an either/or 
proposition.

2. The conflict emerges as a natural consequence of the principal benefit from 
each side being viewed by the other as a flaw. The reality is the features 
are symmetrical and balanced, they represent diametrically opposed 
perspectives but *not* opposite goals, so the debate becomes protracted and 
circular, meaning it will never resolve to a clear "winner."

3. There exists a middle ground, however, a design change which effectively 
accommodates the two views, bringing peace and harmony back to the world. 
Well... at least on this topic. :-)

4. Briefly outline the advantages and disadvantages of each login arrangement 
wherever the choice is offered, but remain as neutral as possible in the 
presentation. This can be accomplished by providing a single two checkbox  
"<>On <>Off" control which is not preselected when the dialog appears. This 
allows the enduser to make a reasonably informed choice without interpreting 
the preset control as a "recommended" or "default" choice, thereby absolving 
Novell/SUSE of any moral/karmic liabilities and ensuring the basic concerns 
of each camp are addressed.

I recognize that this shaves off a tiny fraction of the default 'on' camp's 
territory by putting the decision squarely back on the enduser, but any truly 
neutral solution is going do that. I suggest, in the interest of putting this 
debate to rest permanently, the solution is worth a very small compromise.

Comments? I look forward to reading them but a cyclic debate, once recognized 
as such, is futile to pursue.

regards,

- Carl

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