On 13/11/05, Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 09:01:45PM +0100, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote: > > What else is there? Don't hold back things you think are unlikely to > > be opened up anyway. > > Information, information and uhm... information. > > If you hear the sentence "this is discussed internally" after proposing an > idea is not really motivating. If something is actually discussed internally > that I proposed I am not interested in the fact that people discuss about that > internally but what they think about it and what are the problems that > hindered them until now to do it that way. Maybe I had a solution for that > problem but if nobody tells me about what the problem is, I cannot propose a > solution.
This is very true. And is one of the main motivations of starting this thread. We all understand that Novell will not release control of the SUSE Linux product anytime soon. If that is the sort of project people want to be part of, then they are probably in the wrong place. But we just want to have an input, and be acknowledged. It is very clear from the activity in this thread that I have touched on a subject that is probably central to why we are all here. There are some simple things about human psychology in relation to reward for effort, and validation of views. It is a fact that most people like to feel important, to feel that they make a difference etc. For example. I feel good when I start a thread on the mailing list that generates a lot of activity and people say threads like this stop them from unsubscribing. It is quite simple, I got a reward, that makes me motivated, which then creates a proportional expenditure in time and dedication to the openSUSE project. I think what is required is to create a structure that is inviting, open (as in transparent), and inclusive. The parent is right, when he quotes "this is being discussed internally", with no visible result in weeks or months being a non-motivation. It should be acknowledged that the Core Team has started to put issues on it's new issues page, and that it is only through having discussions like this that the core team can learn what the community wants and needs. Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
