-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Christoph Thiel wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Clayton wrote: > >>>> Maybe I'm missing the obvious... but I find it rather difficult to find >>>> things on the OpenSUSE website. You have to be a psychic to know what's >>>> available there, or happen to search on exactly the right search terms. >>>> I'm constantly "discovering" new pages that someone links in an answer >>>> on the mailing list here. >>>> >>>> Is there a sitemap, or some magical navigation method that people are >>>> using? How are people navigating and finding stuff/info on this site? >>> Google is your friend: >>> >>> site:www.opensuse.org <search string(s)> >> True enough... and I have used this, but from the aspect of site design >> and site navigation this seems to me to be a rather poor way of >> navigating a site - to have to resort to a Google search to discover >> what's actually there. >> >> This assumes that you know ahead of time what you're looking for, and >> this doesn't give you the opportunity to discover what's available. If >> you don't know what's available (and what you need to search for), being >> buddies with Google isn't much help. > > I totally agree with you. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an > automated way to generate a sitemap for the wiki. IMHO we need someone > (any volunteers? ;)) to go though the wiki pages and categorize them + > create some sort of sitemap. > > Until then http://www.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special:Categories > might be something for you - but it's only a temporary solution. > > > Regards > Christoph > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Hi folks, I think Christoph has 'hit the nail on the head' here. Media wiki provides for categorisation of all the pages including parent/sub categroy relationships. This in theory *should* be enough to at least start a user off for navigation however there are a few caveats. First there is no category tree structure so categories are presented in a click through paginated list, probably in no order other than when they were created. Also categories can be added/updated dynamically with a soft link e.g. [[Category: foo]] on a new page will automatically add the category foo, [[Category: bar]] on a page that belongs to the foo category will add a sub category of foo called bar. Also, there is no direct link to the categories from the home page at the moment. Even if there were a user looking for vmware help might, for example, see the category 'Virtulization Software' and click on that. If he did he would see 'Xen' and some other page but not vmware which is currently in its own category even though it is also virtualization software ;) As you see this is quite flexible but can also lead to duplicate categories, category cycles and so on... So what I'm getting at really is that even the categories need a bit of love and attention now and again. So Christoph is quite right, a site map should be generated ( manually ) of the major categories with at least the first level of child categories. This would certainly go a long way to helping navigation on the site which i think is not great at the moment. I'll do what i can over the next 2 weeks of holidays ( between eating and drinking too much ;) to sort any uncategorized pages. Theres around 150 or so of these at the moment so its not *too bad* ;) If you are editing or creating any pages in the meantime it might be worthwhile to bear all of this in mind and try to remember to categorise your page correctly. Cheers the noo... Graham -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDqT0mE7J2/DSrgDcRAnb/AJ0T7/phzJQX/TSku2SzXW2T/nB6EACfXsu8 cljUIRcSlin2DnTIR5+0tJE= =zV3U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
