Hi,

On Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 18:24:10, jdd wrote:
> Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 17:06:34, jdd wrote:
> >> Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> >>
> >>> p.s. Thats one short minded thing i observe here everytime we have a
> >>> discussion about something that involves setting something up / coding
> >>> something / packaging something. Its soo easy to do, just get X from
> >>> foo.org and do Y with it. Of course thats easy. Everybody knows that.
> >>> But commiting longterm to a solution is something completely different! 
> >> that's not fair.
> > 
> > Why is that?
> 
> who speaks of "short minded"

Well it is short minded or? Youre not thinking it trough. Hence short
minded.
 
> > I dont want to write my own nntp like protocol and server/client to
> > implement the hyperfast opensuse group with many new features and
> > concepts.  
> 
> there is nothing to write, the solution exists since a very
> long time now

Exactly my point! There exists a solution since a very long time and im
not going to reinvent it.
 
> >> the point is: do we want to have _our members_ in _our room_
> >>
> >> when I buy shoes, I have all the products for the shoes in
> >> the same place, the vendor don't say: go there to find, if
> >> not I will go elsewhere.
> > 
> > Again comparing Apples and Oranges. To get opensuse mainlinglists over
> > nntp it makes no significant difference if i connect my nntp client to
> > news.opensuse.org or news.gmane.org.
> 
> I see a big one. gmane is a mess of dozen of newsgroups I
> have no concern with.

Why would that be a problem? If it is then you are using the wrong
newsreader :) Every newsreader i know gets a list of groups on the news
server, presents it to the user who can then choose the groups he wants
to "subscribe" to. Most modern ones even allow a search in the grouplist
(knode for instance).

> I have nothing against gmane, but why not googles groups or others?

Why? gmane is in place, has already all lists from lists.suse.com
indexed and is actually used by a lot of people. They have a
straightforward subscription process and are very user friendly, require
no authentification and are OSS centric.

Sorry but gmane+nomail subscriptions in our mailinglists are the perfect
solution and you fail to prove otherwise. 

Henne

-- 
Henne Vogelsang,      http://hennevogel.de
"To die. In the rain. Alone."
                   Ernest Hemingway

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