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Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> I'm going to try and sum things up, since there were a ton of mails since I 
> last checked last night.
> 
> The biggest reasons for opposition to a forum:
> 
> 1) Is this shunning the existing community?
> 
> I don't believe so, I believe this is unifying the community, by having a 
> central, official, place for SUSE on the web in the form of a forum.  That 
> said, comments from those running existing forums really is needed.

It _is_ if we don't involve the maintainers of the currently existing community 
forums.
They are not on this list and "we" are asking the SUSE staff to put up a new 
forum that will be the
official one. As long as we don't involve the maintainers of the current 
forums, this is happening
behind their back.

...

> 3) Extra effort would be needed, taken development time away.
> 
> I sincerely disagree with this argument.  Aside from initial configuration, 
> what main work needs to be done? Moderation? Simple, users will be able to do 
> this.  Many of you know many others on this list, who are not Novell 

Agreed. Some volunteers for moderation speak up. Possibly create an 
opensuse-forum mailing-list to
discuss issues related to it.

...

> Well, thats it for now, this email is too lengthy as it is.  As an aside, I 
> like the idea of a more grassroots approach to finding new users.  I myself 

...

You are forgetting a point I've made at the very beginning of this thread, 
which I think to be very
important.

If there is an official forum, you will *NOT* be able to discuss questions like 
"how do I play
encrypted DVDs", "how do I copy DVDs", "how do I install emule", "how can I 
download MP3s", etc...

Such questions will have to be removed from the forum by moderation, or 
answered as "this is
illegal, get over it". In no way will you be allowed to post links to software 
that enables one to
do that, because it is illegal in the US (and some other countries too). You'll 
also have to remove
posts by others that post such links.

An officially endorsed forum makes Novell liable for the content.
If you don't believe me, check out the recent Heise case in Germany.

cheers
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