Joseph M. Gaffney schrieb:
On Monday 30 January 2006 10:03, Siegbert Baude wrote:
- freedom of speech, i.e. ask the legal staff at Novell how you can give
hints to MP3 and DVD playback (#1 FAQ) without getting Novell in
trouble. Is there a legal difference between a wiki and mailing
list/forum archives? Must these archives and the wiki be located
outside the USA and Germany (e.g. in Norway), to be legal? If they are
outside, is it legal to say on the wiki "for more information have a
look at forum.no"? Is Novell in trademark trouble if the forum is called
*suse*.no or *opensuse*.no?
Just tell your lawyers, that they are paid to give a solution for our
need to answer questions; maybe therefore they should go the supreme
court and make the amendments of the constitution valid again. ;-)
If they don't find a solution, an official forum will be a sure failure,
if every third answer will be "it is not allowed to discuss this here".
Not really, it would be "Please refer to the Restricted Formats article at the
wiki, http://www.opensuse.org/Restricted Formats "
This explains very well, why SUSE is not including some stuff, which
people would like to have. But inevitably the next question is: "I heard
this nevertheless works somehow in SUSE. How?" I can tell you, because I
personally answered this question quite often in usenet.
If you then have two (or more) competing forums, an official Novell one
and some private driven one, and you get your desired answer only in one
forum, you just lost a member of your official forum. So really all
means should be taken into account, to allow these kinds of questions to
be answered. Best, if it would also be allowed to archive them. As this
can lead to legal trouble for Novell, only the Novell legal staff can
tell, if they see a possibility. I very much hope, that they succeed (if
the SUSE employees on this list once start to really demand this answer
from them. :-) )
I think thats a good thing because it raises awareness as to copyright, patent
encumberment, and the issues with the DMCA as well as DRM. I'll continue to
expand upon this article, with more links, more information, but
still nothing that could be considered even remotely illegal. What it does do
is give a general overview of solutions, and enough information, combined
with google, to do whatever they want to. I personally feel thats quite
sufficient.
The problem is, there is not enough information to find the answer "third party
repositories; packman; guru". Never forget, that there are a lot of SUSE users out
there, for whom it is completely legal to listen to MP3s and to watch DVDs with SUSE. The
legal mess in USA, Germany and many other countries should not hinder them to get what
they are allowed to.
So we should train the moderators to make people publish results in the
wiki. Also on the mailing lists it should just become part of netiquette
to finish a thread with "please, document your solution on the wiki".
I think this is an excellent idea - moderators and admins that are on the
list, keeping both abreast of major topical discussions.
If others also agree, this should maybe fixed somewhere on the wiki as
goal of the opensuse project. To be the best distribution also by
offering the best user-driven documentation subproject.
In this model, the backbone of the community, glueing all members
together, are the moderators and volunteers regulating the flow of
information and instructing people to care for sustainability by writing
bugreports and wiki articles.
Well said
There is just the need to transport this to people willing to volunteer.
And maybe also first the consensus here, that this is an official goal
of the mailing lists and forum.
BTW, with regard to the subject, are there any news of the meeting?
Ciao
Siegbert
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