John, first of all please learn how to quote email messages! So-called
"top postings" are not well received on mailing lists...

Just a (relatively ;-)) short answer because that topic seems to be "OT"
on this mailing list:

John Ahrends wrote:
> This is NOT about making a widows clone. This is about making linux more
> usable by people who don't have the time or interest in becoming a LINUX
> guru.  

I don't agree with you here. I can't see why, e.g., having a KDE icon to
(manually) mount/umount filesystems should be much more complicated than
other ways, and I don't think you need to be a Linux guru to click an
icon. It's just different from what you are used to - but that does not
necessarily mean it's worse. I have never seen any person who grew up
with UNIX systems complaining about unusable systems. It's just
different. It's the same with using xterms and the shell - most newbies
and Windows users first don't like using the shell and shell scripts
under Linux and prefer to have GUIs, even if it's just for renaming a
single file. That's absolutely fine, but once they have discovered how
powerful the shell can be they often change their mind. It's just a
different way of handling certain tasks. Isn't that the fundamental
question in the background of all our discussions?

> The more market share that linux takes the more development we will
> get in our little space.  Right now windows has the share because people
> know that when they get a (thing) be it software or hardware that it will
> work in windows.  This is not yet the case with linux.  I use a Wireless
> broadband card.  In order to make this work I create a windows virtual
> machine as a router.  There are all kinds of things I have to give up when I
> run linux.  

I would have to give up many many things when running Windows. Again, we
have just a different point of view and that's the reason why I only
asked to consider...

> [...]
> I do agree that you should be able to turn it off in YAST... 

...the possibility to turn off an automount mechanism in future SUSE
Linux releases. Other emails here on this list and many discussions with
other users/administrators have shows that I am not alone with my opinion.

Cheers,
Th. *most likely EOT for me*


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