Hi Anders (& Thomas) On Thursday 16 February 2006 21:48, Anders Johansson wrote: > Thomas Hertweck wrote: > > ... because the "System Update" is no "update" but an "upgrade" (it > > installs completely new versions of software packages!). > > No, it performs a system update by doing package upgrades. That's a > difference
OK > > That's what > > I've said before and asked to change - it should be called "System > > Upgrade". The names are confusing. I've seen many people trying to use > > this tool called "System Update" to upgrade to the next version of SuSE > > Linux - as they tried this while the system was running, it was bound to > > fail! > > Actually I think more people would be tricked if it was renamed to > System Upgrade, don't you? The System Upgrade that gets started when you > boot from the CD is the yast installer program. Not yast2-update. They > both use the same package management modules, that's true, but the rest > is different. > > For one thing, yast2-update will not change the product version details > in the product database file (which is the main reason for the problem > described in the sdb article you linked to). Which might be the issue. I think we need to distinguish between updating the system with 'point' fixes and doing a wholesale upgrade. Maybe a proper major version upgrade would just tell you to boot from the new CD that you've burnt? Don't bother trying to upgrade a running system. I've done it before, from 9.1->9.2->9.3 but my luck ran out in the end. > > > And that was what I had in mind when writing my last email. In > > principle, this module should not allow to upgrade to an entire new SuSE > > Linux version (incl. the base packages). I've never used "System Update" > > as I could not see any use of it. I've always installed new software via > > the "Software Management" module and I still can't see the sense of the > > "System Update" module after reading your mail... > > I use system update all the time, to update the packages from the > supplementary directories and from Packman. I find it much easier to > work with for mass updates (package upgrades) than the software > management module, which I mainly use for single package installations > and removals. Of course it is possible to use Software Management for > it, so in that sense I'd agree with you that System Update is redundant. > > File a wishlist bug in bugzilla for it and see what the yast developers > think of it. Or join the novellforge YaST project and submit a patch I'm not sure we need to spend too many cycles on this. To be honest, updating the system this way is asking for trouble, and I'd sooner encourage better practices for keeping home directories on seperate partitions, having good partitioning plans etc. than to have a lazy way of doing a 10.0->10.1 upgrade. Cheers Pete --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
