Hi, sorry but i _have_ to bash you :)
On Friday, February 17, 2006 at 12:04:27, Mark Hellman wrote: > > Having the information available buried in the archives of the > > mailing list which doesn't have a search function is not exactly > > helpful for casual users > > That is a big problem that OpenSUSE people refuse to understand. > > 1. The mailing-lists run on obsolete software (ezmlm). Mailman is much > more featureful and user-friendly. Heh. Did you ever administer a mailinglist with more then 10 users? Did you ever administer a mailinglist server with more then 2 mailinglists? :) We do. Since 1997 we run this service to our community. Since 1997 we are VERP-DoSing mail servers all over the world and provide the most kick ass return times. Since 1997 we are running one of the biggest mailinglist servers that exists in the internet. Since quite some time we host two of the biggest mailinglists that exist in the opensource community. Even occasionally beating lkml in terms of posts and users. Sorry but mailman sucks big time in terms of configuration, administration and most of all delivery speed. ezmlm and qmail are not obsolete! > 2. It is odd to run the mailing-lists on software that OpenSUSE does > not even include on its distribution! Why would that be odd? The only odd thing is that we have to care about software maintenance ourselfs. We did for the last 9 years very well. > 3. The best way to read many mailing-lists without having to download > thousands of emails every day is to use the Gmane NNTP<->Mailing-Lists > gateway (http://www.gmane.org). And since Gmane has its own search > engine, OpenSUSE wouldn't need to worry in implementing it. But for > Gmane to make real sense, a mailing-list subscriber must be able to > disable mail delivery. And this NOT possible with ezmlm. Of course this is possible with ezmlm. Its not possible with our configuration of ezmlm. This will change with the new lists server. > Despite all this, OpenSUSE insists on using ezmlm. Why? And now let me shock you. We are going to switch! To mailman? Hell no! To mlmmj and postfix (oh btw both are included in SUSE Linux). Why do we do that? Not because ezmlm+qmail is bad but because mlmmmj+postfix is even better and we need to redesign the list server and the list layout anyway to be prepared for the next 9 years of mailserver-DoSing service! :) </proud-of-what-we-did-and-do-flame> Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Core Services "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar (The Wire) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
