On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, houghi wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 05:26:30AM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Robert Schiele wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 05:20:16PM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote: > > > > I have been waiting for this discussion on the list as I feel there is > > > > a > > > > real problem with mirrors. Especially US mirrors. I have started > > > > using > > > > the EU mirrors as they are the only real reliable mirrors. > > > > > > Well, if you have a point to make then _make_ it. You should not wait > > > until > > > someone provides you with the answer to life, the universe, and > > > everything. > > > > I find your attiude and tone offensive and demeaning. Your action item > > item was to disuss/document the current situation and verify whether > > others are seeing the problem. > > I don't think it was offencsive. I think he is right. If you have an > issue, please come forward. If everybody waits for others to come forward, > then we are going nowhere.¹
If you look you will see that I did start discussing it. I know it was a topic on the agenda. I could not make the IRC meeting. I had tried to find the IRC log to see what was discussed. I then started a thread on the problem of Non EU mirrors. Then I read the log and back-off waiting for the thread. > Mmm. I must have missed that meeting, because the one that I attended > clearly spoke about the problems on non-europe mirrors. Both in quality and > quatity. That is what I was talking about. US mirror are few and bad. Using EU mirrors in the US is the only reliable way to address problems. All I heard prior to the threads I started with the current one excluded was that Novell/SUSE had mirrors and there were no problems. But the reality was that they had them, but they do not function/work well. > ¹Sometimes on Usenet I see people complaining about something in SUSE. > When I ask them to file a bugreport, then they say that SUSE must just > repair it. When I ask them how SUSE know what to repair if they do not > know what is broken is still waiting for an answer. > > You can replace Usenet by forum/phonecall/pub visit/random contact. Agreed. That is why this thread is now happening. I have been chidded a lot for over stepping bounds to address problems. Even though I have been using SUSE Linux since the first release, and have had many battles. It became apparent to me that I need to listen more and not be as out spoken as I had been in the past. I guess the pendule has now swung to far in the opposite direction. Finding a good balance is hard. -- Boyd Gerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047
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