Hi Pascal, Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Martin Mewes wrote:
>> Speaking for the developer of Webmin/Usermin (Jamie Cameron) directly I >> really would like to see Webmin/Usermin getting back into the distribution, >> but again it's too complex. > >I tried to package Webmin once, that was quite some time ago, but Webmin >really isn't suited nor made to be easily packaged, mostly because the >setup is interactive (at least that was the only option at that time). >Given that I now have a lot more experience with a lot more exotic >packages, I'd say it's far from being impossible. Well you need to use the src.rpm from the developer (right now: http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/rpm/webmin-1.270-1.src.rpm) and repack on that one. For me it was a good start because of the interactive original setup. Be aware I run a mirror of Webmin and am not the developer ;-) >> On will I could whitepaper my thoughts a bit more. > >Yes please. opensuse-packaging is very, very low traffic... actually >that list is near useless at the moment, unfortunately. As I am mirroring this list (http://mbox.mewes.tv/mbox/ -> http://mbox.mewes.tv/mbox/opensuse-packaging/) but not had the time to actually read it I will follow my own guess and give it another try the next days. >Nevertheless, there are several experienced packagers subscribed to that >list, and I'd say that if you have a question regarding packaging, be it >specific to SUSE or not, or just want to discuss thing related to it, >join the list, let us know. > >What kind of documentation are you looking for ? >About RPM, generally ? >About making RPMs specifically on SUSE Linux ? I think that if a packager wants to build packages for openSUSE a interactive build tool (IBT) should come up with something like this (more specific to read on opensuse-packaging soon): Step 01: Enter the path/download URL to the $name.src.rpm Step 02: IBT extracts the contents to ~/build/$name Step 03: As the src.rpm extracts the sources for $name.rpm provided by the developer it should be somewhat analyzable by IBT. IBT should actually see the install instructions and can present the sections part by part. Step 04: IBT should be able to have a set of directories builtin to give the packager good hints on how to change the install instructions. Example: Webmin wants to install to /usr/libexec/webmin by default, but the standards for openSUSE say that system packages should go to /opt/$package as example so the instructions for the installation regarding the installation path should be automatically altered by IBT. Step 05: In the end Webmin is managed over HTTP so the IBT should ask a couple of questions at the end, i.e. Is this a package to be managed remotely? [ ] Please enter the the needed port: ________ IBT can automatically add code to the package to open the managing port in the firewall. [ ] RPM-Commandline/YAST-Output: a) If you choose to leave this entry blank some code will be added to the package informing the end-user that he needs to open the given port in the firewall manually. b) If you choose to select this option code will be added informing the user that the given port will be opened automatically for him. As you may see "Step 05" is part of the IBT which is directly supporting openSUSE. To now it is Webmin-specific but I will render it to be more general. In the end there should be something like this: Step 06: openSUSE requires packages to be signed with a digital signature. If you do not have a GnuPG-key IBT will now build one for you. Please enter the following information: Full Name: eMail: Description: IBT will create the key and stores everything in a safe place to be used for future packaging. On will IBT will upload it to a key-server for you as well (highly recommended). This key should be used for packaging only. Huh, this is everything I have in mind so far, but it will be more specific and I will rewrite it to some HTML-slideshow. bis dahin / kind regards Martin Mewes Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer: Messaging 2003 Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator: Messaging 2003 -- http://www.mewes.tv/ - Homepage http://mbox.mewes.tv/ - Mailinglisten zum Downloaden --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
