Hi, On Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 11:19:16, Martin Schlander wrote: > I think we need some kind of formalized leadership/organization (call > it what you want). I don't necessarily believe in "leaders manifesting > themselves naturally". I think we need to form some kind of teams - > with (elected) leads. And a wikipage where you can see who are members > of a certain team and how to join - and what the > tasks/responsibilities are, etc.
I find this approach very confusing. The problem we face at the moment is that there are not enough active members in any of the "teams". We are struggeling to get things done because there are only a handfull of people doing stuff. And i mean actually doing somthing not talking about it. Look for instance in the support database. Martin imported a lot of articles from the old one. Its the perfect place to add small amounts of documentation. There even is a HOWTO on writing an sdb article, there is a style guide, there are lots of old articles you can learn from. So its really easy to add SDB articles. Now we are close to 10.1 and im sure there are some rough edges in it that need explenation. Did anyone write any article about something in 10.1 yet? No. Or another case. The Download page. Everybody knows that we will release 10.1 tomorrow. Everybody can see that the Download pages is not up to it yet. Its needs some work to reflect the new media layout, maybe a new template or things like that. Is it hard to do? No. Is anyone doing it? No. Or the best example ever. The Taks page. Did anyone do anything from the task page yet? No. Yesterday the first task got done and that page is there since a month. Its even linked from menu. So its not very hard to find (1 click!). What im trying to say is that we are short on active members. We are not short on leadership, we are not short on things we have to do, we are not short on entry points for pepole that want to do something, we are not short on documentation on how to do things. And what i really want to say is: GET YOUR ASS UP AND DO SOMETHING!!!! Henne And just a small sidenote: In fact there is already a strong leadership in most of the areas Wiki content: Pflodo, jdd, CuCullin, Beineri, Rajko Wiki infrastructure: Martin, darix Packaging: Pascal, Packmans, James, Peter Buildservice: Adrian, mls, schiele, Cornelius Meetings: me, darix, cboltz General: skh, adrianS, cthiel and so on, and so on. They dont need to be declared. They are just leading by scratching their own itches that they have with the openSUSE project. So youre already proved wrong in when you object that "leaders manifesting themselves naturally" because they already have... -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "To die. In the rain. Alone." Ernest Hemingway --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
