Am Samstag, 13. Mai 2006 21:04 schrieb Mark Hellman:
> > You're wrong. Suse Linux never came with binary Nvidia and/or ATI
> > drivers. You always had to dowload them. There is _no_ change here.
>
> I am not wrong (at least in the case of NVidia). On previous versions, a
> user could download and automatically install the Nvidia driver just by
> selecting a check box in YaST Online Update.
>
> > This was always the case. You always needed kernel-source to recompile
> > the kernel modules after an update.
>
> Actually, if a user installed the NVidia driver using the above method
> (YOU), a manual recompilation of the driver was NOT necessary. Read the
> first paragraph of the following How-To:
> http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html#3
>
> The same happened with Smartlink and AVM binary drivers.
Please do your homework before posting. AVM drivers were removed, yes. But 
smartlink drivers are still there.

>
> > But now, you have the possibility to build a
> > proper kmp module, which might work also after a kernel update.
>
> The only certain things so far are:
>    - The NVidia driver is more difficult to install in 10.1 than on 10.0.
Perhaps. But now you at least know, what you are doing. It's more Linux-like, 
not Windows-like :-)

>    - A sysadmin has much more trouble managing workstations and servers
> (yes, servers too) because after each kernel security update he needs to
> recompile binary drivers that before he didn't need to worry about. 
Running binary drivers from ATI or Nvidia on servers  seems a bad idea for me. 
But I guess we do not have the same definition of server.

> - Lots 
> of users will believe their laptop's modems don't work on Linux, even
> though their are Smartlink based. On previous SuSE versions the Smartlink
> driver was automatically installed and configured.
See above.

> I can't see any advantage for users in this Novell decision. If somebody
> can find one advantage, please show me.
You mentioned Smartlink. They put the driver from kernel to userspace. So it 
already was a succesful decision in one case. 

Of course you are right, that in 10.1 there is no advantage for _users_. But 
the whole story is more about the work of the kernel developers, debugging 
closed source drivers instead of writing open source ones etc. 

-- 
Üdvözlettel -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
Marcel Hilzinger

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