On Saturday 03 June 2006 21:42, houghi wrote: > On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 09:23:21PM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: > > I truly do not. I see no need whatsoever to have an email forum > > about "the community." > > OK. so you do not think that the community as such needs anything > else?
My god. What does "the community" need to discuss that's not what it's working on? Is this some kind of social club? Please give me some examples of non-technical, non-product issues that are pertinent topics of discussion in your conception of this list's charter. > > There is a technology project and the valid topics > > should be that technology and its development. But when people ask > > questions about the end product, they're sent elsewhere. To me, > > this seems perverse. > > There are a LOT of other issues that deal with the community that are > not directly related to the product. Why is it so difficult to have > just one place (suse-linux-e) that deals with technical issues? What > is the need to have this list answer technical issues as well? Could you suggest what some of these other issues are? > > Perhaps you just want an exclusive club. That's fine. Just restrict > > membership and only let in people who are willing to restrict > > themselves chatting about "the community." > > I do not want an exclusive club. I want a place where I can discuss > community issues without them being drowned in technical issues. > openSUSE is much more then just support for SUSE. If I have a desire > to talk technical, I go to suse-linux-e or other places where it is > apropriate. SuSE Linux is a technology project. If anything is off-topic, it's the non-technical. > So where should these discussions about the openSUSE itself that are > NOT directly related to SUSE Linux take place then? Perhaps you think > here as well. What are these things? What is openSUSE that is not also SuSE Linux? You steadfastly refuse to suggest to me what they might be. The only thing I can think of that would be off-topic here (besides non-technical issues, of course) is non-open-source software, which is strictly in the commercial Novell / SuSE Linux release. > Can I ask you, are you in general against different mailinglists, or > do you think that everything should be in just one mailinglist? If > you think it should be in one, then it will become so large nobody > will be able to do anything with it. I have yet to get any idea at all what people working on SuSE Linux want to talk about other than SuSE Linux. That is the only thing the people on this list have in common. What else should they discuss? Gardening? Poker? Bicycling? Child-rearing? So if you cannot tell me what this list is for other than to keep saying "community issues," then no. I don't think there needs to be two lists. > Most likely you agree that there should be some difference in > mailinglists. As you do not agree with the current lists, how do you > propose to solve it? No. I certainly do not. SuSE Linux is a technology project. There's nothing else to discuss and I think that's made pretty clear by the fact that people keep coming here with technical questions. Sadly, they're now just handed copy and after copy of some boilerplate telling them to go somewhere else. Unless and until you can get specific about what non-technical issues you think this list should be used for, then I see no need for this list at all. Repeating "community issues" over and over does not answer the question. > houghi RRS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
