On Saturday, November 11, 2006 @ 8:05 AM, Michael Letourneau wrote:

>On Friday 10 November 2006 23:56, John Andersen wrote:
>> On Friday 10 November 2006 18:40, J Sloan wrote:
>> > I would think it's quite obvious - it's a double standard. Either it's
OK
>> > to be involved with microsoft, or it's not. You can't have it both
ways.
>>
>> Sure he can.  Who appointed you king?
>>
>> One can be involved in microsoft in the paid software world and
>> be disinclined to be involved with microsoft in the free software world.
>>
>> A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.

>I think what most of us are thinking and trying to say is that it is
>entirely 
>hypocritical on his point.  Its OK for him to make a living and earn money 
>from having to deal with windows, but because Novell has to do the same 
>thing, he is saying its wrong.

>It IS exactly the same thing.  Just because Novell is larger does not mean
>it 
>was not looking at its finacial future and realizing that it had to do this

>to make it through a hard point.  

>We are not saying that he is evil for dealing with Microsoft.  We are
saying 
>that he is being hypocritical by holding others to standards that he
himself 
>does not feel.  And he is perfectly allowed to feel that way, BUT, it 
>definitely lets us know exactly where he is coming from.

>Michael

  Well, there's having to make a living and having an opinion about
something used where you work, and they may be different.  You can say it's
hypocritical, but does a person have to refuse to work for a company that
uses Windows in order to refuse to form a voluntary relationship with a
company (Novell) that is partnering with Microsoft?  I. e., I will risk
starving to death based on principle because of my dislike of Microsoft and
not work for any company that associates with them, that way I can maintain
my principles in order to be able to avoid any voluntary association with
anyone who has anything to do with Microsoft?
  Regarding the deal itself, I personally haven't been able to discern any
guaranteed doomsday scenario coming out of the Microsoft Novell
collaboration, though I think Novell had better have read all of the fine
print before signing onto the deal.

Greg Wallace

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