On Saturday 11 November 2006 02:10, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> Kai Ponte wrote:
> > In light of the recent agreement with MS and Novell, this is interesting
> > to note on this list. I don't know how many of you use Mono, but it is
> > worth noting.
> >
> > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061109-8190.html
> >
> > http://www.go-mono.com/archive/1.2/
> >
> > "An important milestone leading up to Novell's goal of .NET 2.0 support,
> > the inclusion of the WinForms API in Mono 1.2 significantly simplifies
> > the process of porting .NET applications from Windows to Linux and other
> > supported platforms. Developers can now use WinForms to produce
> > cross-platform compatible user interfaces for .NET applications."
>
> Umm... Well, nice, but AFAIK WinForms is not anywhere near being part of
> the ECMA "standard" (as isn't ASP.NET).
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa569283.aspx
> http://www.thescripts.com/forum/thread48750.html
>

Well, no. I wouldn't expect WinForms to at all be part of the standard. I'd 
only expect them to be included in MS Software. I'm just mentioning it 
because you weren't able to use WinForms in previous versions under Windows.


> ...
>
> > The cool thing about this, is that I can compile it in either Linux or
> > Wintendo and it will run in both. I've copied the resulting .exe file to
> > my pen drive and ran it directly on Win2K and WinXP systems.
> >
> > ...but then Java does the same thing, right?
>
> Indeed, and with Java it's actually part of a standard.
> Not only Swing, but also Servlet/JSP/JSF (web presentation layer), EJBs
> (remoting components), JMS (pub-sub and point-to-point messaging), JPA
> (ORM persistence), ...... and tons of JSRs as part of the Java Community
> Process: http://jcp.org/
> That's definitely a huge difference between Java and .NET ;)

Yeah, but all those acronyms tend to confuse me.   I start hearing things like 
EJB, ANT, SWING, ORM and whatnot and I just shut off. 

Gimme something simple to develop with. :)


>
> I mean, Sun has TCKs to validate that standard implementations (e.g.
> Tomcat's or Jetty's Servlet impl, or JBoss' JPA impl) do comply.
>
> As WinForms and ASP.NET are no standards but proprietary (and belonging
> to MS), there are at least two issues:
> - who/what is going to validate Mono's implementation as compliant with
> WinForms ? well, the developers, by testing... um..

That's what's going to happen. 

> - who/what will guarantee there won't be a lawsuit against Mono because
> they're implementing a proprietary API that belongs to MS ? a deal... ?
> possibly ;)

LOL!  Now, what Linux distribution vendor would ever enter into an agreement 
with Microsoft? That just seems silly!


-- 
kai
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