On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 10:12:09PM +0100, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
> The "deal" itself is empty as far as I can see from the link below,
> the OSS community as a whole doesn't gain anything from it, and
> neither do SUSE users. The only ones that gain are the Novell
> bank-acount and lawyers from MS.

So? I have no problem with not gaining anything. I did not sign anything,
so why would I, as a member of the OSS comunity, gain anything with a deal
between two parties? It is their deal/

> The bit that said nobody is really protected from patent suets
> anyway was clevery hit in the agreement don't you think?

No, I don't think that. I just don't see anything different, even if they
still are allowed to sue eachother over patents. Read: _still_

> But they do have leveraged over other Linx distro's, now they've
> hooked one player.

I do not see it as being 'hooked'. If Microsoft would have wanted patents
to enter just to destroy Linux, there are much easier ways. Say that I am
a undercover M$ person. I get some code from Microsoft. I trow it in the
kernel and then after a year or so. I have a non-sue contract with them,
so I do not have to worry.

I don't need to get a payment for 318 million. I would do it for half the
money.

> Divide and conquer, maybe you've heard of it.

Yes, I have heard of it and it is happening by the OSS community itself.
This is due to the fact that people are (rightly or wrongly) against
Microsoft.

> > Either? I have not spend any money on them ever. The latest I spend money
> > was SuSE 9.1 and I am angry with myself for buying so many versions. Now I
> > just download the stuff
> 
> Well, I have have at least 6 boxes here, and every penny spent on
> SUSE has been well worth it; *sofar*.

I would say that I spend too much on SUSE. The reason being that I
followed the trail fo updating when a new version came out. Now I go more
along the way of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I went from 9.1 to
10.0. No need to buy 9.2 or 9.3. I have the 10.1 as a present (Thanks
Novell)
 
> I remain sceptical, until proven otherwise. That has nothing to do
> with being anti-Microsoft, only with seeing that MS has no interest
> in making Linux better, so they're after something else. I just
> don't know what yet.

I will remain sceptical as always. There has nothing changed that made me
more or less sceptical of what Microsoft is doing. Why would I or anybody
else suddenly become less sceptical? Or more sceptical for that matter.

houghi
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