On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, John Andersen wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 November 2006 14:02, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
> > Novell is making an effort to get us to understand the agreement.  Take a
> > look at the IRC log from last week.
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-11-08/transcript
> >
> > There will be an other session probably next week.
>
> Thanks for that link.  I would think if there were real concern on Novells
> part they would just publish the agreement in full, and produce
> detailed FAQs about it and all the hidden clauses, rather than
> resorting to an IRC channel for pete sake!

They are but I think they are going the extra mile to assist us with our
concerns.  At a conference last week the gave us a URL.  See this message.

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg00270.html

Which also gives reference to the general site and FAQ/Annoucements.

I really think Novell has tried to keep us informed and up to date.  I
understand the....

Hope for the Best, expect the Worst, and take what ever comes.

Sorry for the /rant

Maybe we need to keep informed.  But we all really need to wait and see
what happens.  Only time will really tell if this is good/bad.  We do have
to remember that everyone needs to make a livinng.  Not everything is
being done for free.  This world is not a Utopia.  Money does have a place
in what happens.  Even Linus is paid by a company.  So that does have an
influence.  For better or worse, someone has to pay for the CD/DVD's and
the distro.  This world does not do everything for free for everyone.  So
let's grow up a bit and see what happens.  The truth is the only way to
make use truely free.

I am a bit a shamed at the way the OSS community is/has been acting.  I am
a member of this community.  With all the FUD MS does.  There really is a
lot from the OSS world as well.  Look at the /. crowd.  There are many
followers that really do not think for themselves.  They do not look for
the truth of what is going on.  They blindly follow.

The sad point is what has happend to thought, understanding and truth.
Are we all just lemings rushing to the cliff?  This is the real world.
Nothing is truely free.  Someone has to pay for the Net, the server, the
equipment, Hardware, electricity, food, ...  Do you grow/hunt/provide
everything for your self?  Maybe you make/made everything, design of your
system, your mother board your case,,..  even the batteries for your solar
power system that provides the power you use.  So you did not pay anything
to any one.  I really doubt it.  We all rely on someone or something and
we pay for it.  So we have to let Novell make money to pay the OSS workers
they have.  If not I really doubt that all this would be done for free and
gratis.  OSS is a great way of doing things, but someone some where pays
for our privliges.  It not where would we be.

rant/

I have just had enough of all the complaining.  Let's be a little more
realistic and live in this world of the evil money that has to be paid.

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Boyd Gerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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