Fred A. Miller a écrit :
On Saturday 25 November 2006 14:22, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
On Nov 25, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:55 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
so do tell, what is this list for then?
Discussions about suse/novell linux. In my opinion, discussions
about the
future of that is more or less on topic, even if I dislike the tone of
some of them.
Complaining will not make them go away, but rather, will increase the
number of disccusions and the noise.
After close to 9 years on this list and hundreds of thousands of
emails answer and sent .. I find the deal between SuSe (I'm an old
fart, so leave me alone) and Microsoft VERY relevant to the future of
what I will support and use. I remember quite well Microsoft crushing
my beloved OS/2 with their bull**** and FUD. I don't want it to
A VERY sore point for a number of us who were working with systems for close
to 30 yrs. I'm just an old goat, and it's true you're an old fart! ;)
happen again to Linux. Believe the PHB's out there pay more attention
to Microsoft paid pundits there we would believe. If they start
seeing stuff like what Ballmer put forth .. they will shy away from
Linux. This we can NOT have. So if Novell makes bad decisions that
could effect my livelihood .. then by damn I want to know what they
are. And if Novell has to be relegated to a bit player in the
computing world .. so be it. It's not about SUSE, SuSE or SuSe ..
it's about Linux and other GNU software.
Correct!!
Not one person here can accuse me of being a Chicken Little or having
an agenda. I've used SUSE since 4.1 and even worked for SUSE in
Oakland. I want them around just as much as anyone else, but I won't
have their parent company making shit decisions that in danger Linux.
All Microsoft has to bloody do is release their specs for things such
as SMB, NTFS and other such things .. the FOSS developers will do the
rest to make them work together better. We don't need an "agreement"
for better operability .. that crap.
Right again!
Anyway. The deal that Novell and Microsoft signed is very much ON
topic. And if you people want to get back to the way this list was ..
I'd agree that actually answering questions instead of RTFM or check
the archives would be the way to go. This list hasn't been very great
for information in quite a few years. I wish we could have it back,
but I doubt that will happen.
It's a MAJOR issue of mammoth proportions that isn't just going to go away on
it's own, nor dissappear if ignored.
Fred
Hello All
Don't you see that all that's happening was planned from the beginning
by Novell's heads; the first day they bought SuSE; they had a plan to
destroy it and don't be dreamers opensuse is only a leurre it won't
survive as a community as long as Novell has destroyed everything and of
course will stop financial help to opensuse- This is what i can see and
as some guys here are old enough with SuSE just remember all the events
happened in the near past.I am really sorry such a beautiful Os
finishing like this
Jacques
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