On Sunday 26 November 2006 13:55, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2006-11-26 15:16, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > ...
>
> They are actually highly subjective -- they all depend on a specific
> measuring apparatus which depends crucially on the electromagnetic
> interaction (the only one we can observe directly). To suggest that
> the gravitational interaction must necessarily have the same
> fundamental definition of length (or time) is highly presumptive,
> hence subjective.

I don't know what you mean by "gravitational interaction ... hav[ing] 
the same ... definition of length."

Anyway, there's a difference between subjective (residing in the 
consciousness of the observer) and arbitrary. Most units require 
arbitrary definitions. They are not, however, subjective.

(And don't give me any of that BS about quantum mechanics bringing the 
observer's consciousness to bear on what is real or on what transpires 
in the realm of matter / energy and space / time. Interactions occur 
and are necessary to measure a physical phenomenon. A mind is not.)


Randall Schulz
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