* HG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-14-07 13:40]:
> I'm the one who claimed that it doesn't work as well as rpm's. There
> are lots of people on this list who think I'm stupid. Some will
> undoubtedly write to list that I'm so stupid that I should not be
> allowed to use SUSE. They are all correct of course... but still I
> plan to use this (as I like YaST).
> 
> The installer probably works, but I just do not know how to use it.
> That's what it is. What I wrote earlier was based on previous try with
> 1.5 update 8 or 9 (I think bundled with Net Beans). This is what
> happened then:
> I downloaded the installer and started it. It quickly became obvious
> that I was not able to install it for all users (it didn't ask for
> instance if I want to install it for all users or just me and ask for
> root passwd). So I hit cancel and try again as root. This time it
> asked me where to install it. And I just didn't know! I've used SuSE
> with YaST for years without having to know where the programs go. I
> didn't know.
> 
> Now I tried the new installer. This time no GUI but CLI which just
> unpacked it under my home dir. Trying "java -version" showed that it
> was not installed as I wanted. Yes, the files were probably there and
> after couple of mv's and ln's it would probably worked. I just didn't
> know which.
> 
> Contrast this with rpm that automatically goes to the right place and
> is configured correctly. And just works (tm).
> 
> So, that's why I'm hoping somebody that can (I really thank you guys!)
> will have the time to make a rpm for SUSE out of things like java.
> That way stupid users like me can enjoy SUSE.


13:44 wahoo:~ > rpm -qi java-1_5_0-sun
Name        : java-1_5_0-sun               Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version     : 1.5.0_10                          Vendor: SUSE LINUX Products 
GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany
Release     : 0.1                           Build Date: Thu 21 Dec 2006 
11:03:37 AM EST
Install Date: Fri 05 Jan 2007 04:59:32 PM EST      Build Host: Owens.suse.de
Group       : Development/Languages/Java    Source RPM: 
java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_10-0.1.src.rpm
Size        : 73440916                         License: Other License(s), see 
package
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Thu 21 Dec 2006 11:07:01 AM EST, Key ID a84edae89c800aca
Packager    : http://bugs.opensuse.org
URL         : http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/
Summary     : Java(TM) 5 Runtime Environment
Description :
Java(TM) 5 Runtime Environment

The Java(TM) 5 Runtime Environment contains the Java virtual machine,
runtime class libraries, and Java application launcher that are
necessary to run programs written in the Java progamming language. It
is not a development environment and does not contain development tools
such as compilers and debuggers. For development tools, see the
java-1.5.0-sun-devel package.

The Java 5 Runtime Environment is intended for software developers and
vendors who wish to redistribute their applications.
Distribution: SUSE LINUX 10.1 (X86-64)


If you like to install rpm's, then do it.  Why complain about something
that exists and you don't/won't/can't find?

Your posts have become inane ramblings better suited to a blog!
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