Tirsdag 06 februar 2007 17:55 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> On Tue, 6. February 2007 12:06:00 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
> > Dear list and gurus :-)
> >
> > Say you have an organization (a school) with 15 teachers. All using
> > SuSE10.2/LTSP4.2 and Kmail. Every teacher has his own list of contacts
> > (E-mail adresses) in Kmail.
> >
> > This is not easy to handle.
> >
> > Can Kmail either self or indirectly make use of a remote, centrally
> > managed adressbook or something?
> >
> > If not, any recommendations as to a good OpenSource groupware webbased
> > thing?
> >
> > Other suggestions?
>
> AFAIK in the moment there is no SUSE based Groupware Server which offers
> autoinstalled and preconfigured groupware functionalities out of the box
> which is free of costs.
>
> A good and IMO the best and very powerfull server distribution which will
> fit your needs is the former SUSE Open Scchool Server (OSS). It is still
> offered and supported by Extis a german company. They also adopted its
> future development.
>
> IMO OSS is the most powerfull Linux based Server solution for education
> environments and the needs of a school you will find. There is a free (of
> cost) evaluation version at: http://www.extis.de/oss_eval.html precisely it
> points to: http://www.schul-netz.de/dh/?pfad=/openschoolserver/OSS2.0/iso
>
> Don't worry that it's primary documentation is in German, nevertheless it
> is one of the best documentations in this field I'm aware of. And not to
> forget Lars Rupp and Peter Varkoly (in alphabetical order ;-) are very
> competent people behind it.
> On the long run the costs for update, installation and general support are
> worth one's salt.
>
>
> As mentioned by Will Stephenson I also would vote for a KOLAB based
> groupware.
>
> There is a free (of costs) Debian based groupware server distribution
> offered by univention Germany. Since end of last year univention offers it
> as free downloadable distribution. The univention groupware server (ugs) is
> targeting the needs of a professional environment in a company. But IMO it
> is also worth a closer look:
> http://download.univention.de/download/ucs-cds/ucs1.3-2/ (as mentioned in a
> German article in c't, the leading IT publication in DE, the installation
> of ugs should be done after the ucs (univention coorporate server) is
> installed first. This avoids some configuration steps which have to be done
> if ugs is installed alone. Due to the fact that ugs is based on ucs a later
> installation of ugs will only add the groupware functionality. german
> article: http://www.heise.de/open/artikel/79250 )
> As for OSS support for ucs is offered for cash. And as said for OSS it is
> worth one's salt too.
>
>
> So which one will be the best for your needs?
> +   OSS comes alon with a lot of features which will be of interest for
> your students, e.g. a web based forum, special preconfigured groups for
> teachers and students which enables a taylored permisson policy for each
> group (e.g. internet access for students, class based permissions,
> age-group (german: Jahrgang) based permissions).
> +   OSS is configured and administrated via yast2 as in Opensuse
> (+) The integration of opensuse workstations is well documented. (+)
> because in the moment I don't know if it is available in English.
> +   OSS is developed for schools
>
> +   UGS offers KOLAB2 as groupware solution, which IMHO is better than the
> one in OSS.
> +   UGS is free of costs
> -   ugs is not primarily targeting the needs of a school
>
> +   both offer full groupware support for GNU/Linux, Windows and also
> MacOSX +   both offer the perspective to have students accounts
> (-) both are documented in German only. (-) because as far as I know
>
> I've installed both OSS and ugs in a couple of schools and youth
> centers ?youth clubs? (german: Jugendzentren). Both of them work like a
> charm!
>
> In the end the staff people's preference / knowledge for either suse or
> debian was the reason for a decision in the end.
>
> The lack of a German documentation of both OSS and ugs offer a big chance
> for your school. You may enter the Linux hall of fame and claim the merits
> to be the first who made one of them available for native english speakers,
> worldwide, if you will find a way to translate the documentation. May be it
> might be of interest for a german course at your school?
>
> regards,
> thomas


A big thank you to all of you, giving me so much valuable info.

First; I'm danish, ahem...the school is danish.

Never the less, I (we) read german documentation just as well. No sweat.
I'll give Kolab a run first though. In fact, I just surfed to the website and 
it's downloading as I write this.

Again, thank you!

I'll keep you posted.




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