On Sunday 25 February 2007, M Harris wrote:
> . I do not want him to be able to shutdown the
> machine (or suspend it, or hibernate it) while I'm logged into it.

That you can think of a single case that goes against the norm
does not change the fact that a laptop is THE MOST personal of
computers, where 99.9999999% of them are used by a single person
at a time.

Therefore the standard IS and SHOULD BE that root is NOT required
to power down or suspend laptops. Those 00.0000001% of the people 
who allow simultaneous connections to the laptop can go the extra
distance to secure the system against accidental shutdown.

What security expert sits a child at the console and then in the same
breath preaches security as a reason to inconvenience the vast majority
of users?

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