Sandy Drobic wrote:
> Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
>   
>
>> Since the message was 7 bit to start with, and telling Postfix to
>> discard the 8bitmime ehlo response allows it to work, which is the
>> problem?  Should Postfix convert the message to 8bit?  Is that the
>> proper response to the 8bitmime ehlo response?  Is the problem Exchanges
>> non conversion to 7bit when the destination server does not support
>> 8bitmime?  IOW, they could configure Exchange to not advertise 8bitmime
>>     
>
> Postfix does not convert any 7bitmime to 8bitmime, it merely converts
> 8bitmime to 7bitmime, if the destination server does not support 8bitmime.
>   
But didn't the message have to be converted to 8 bit to be rejected by
those domains we had trouble sending to , and whose servers do not
advertise 8bitmime?  I guess I was assuming they had to be since they
were bounced.  And they now work with 8bitmime keyword discarded.  So am
I wrong that, since the client says the message was 7 bit (Thunderbird),
i.e.

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

and it now goes through with only the change to what Postfix sees in the
response codes from Exchange, that they had to be being converted to 8
bit somewhere.  I do also run amavisd-new with virus and spam checking,
so all the messages do also go through there.  If Postfix doesn't
convert 7 bit to 8 bit, how do they now work?  I checked amavisd-new,
and it also advertises 8bitmime.  If it started off as a 7 bit encoded
message, and it went through Postfix 2x and amavisd-new once, and
discarding 8bitmime AFAIU should make Postfix convert the message to 7
bit, where could it have become an 8 bit message?
> Though there was a bug recently in a perl module that amavisd-new uses
> (Net::Cmd 2.2.7), which caused ALL mail to be converted to UTF8 regardless
> of the encoding of the headers. It caused a lot of screams here in Germany
>  because the problem immediately became apparent with the German "Umlaute"
> äüö etc.
>   
I checked and I don't have that module installed.  pin doesn't even list
that module.  But that got me to wondering if amavisd-new could be
converting it.  I had totally forgot about that one.
> I had a similar problem last weekend when I set up my server to use
> amavisd-new as a smtp-proxy filter. For whatever reason the cyrus-users
> listserver is adding a "auth=<>" to the "mail from" command, which is no
> problem for Postfix but causes amavisd-new to (wrongly) reject the message.
> Postfix announces support for auth, and hands the connection over to
> amavisd-new, which does not seem to support auth correctly (smtp auth
> connections work, but not the auth extension in the "mail from" command.
>
> The only solution I found was to suppress the auth announcement in the
> ehlo response when the cyrus-users listserver connects. My post on the
> amavis list didn't get any replies, so for the moment it is the only solution.
>   
Well, I am encouraged by the fact I actually understood most of that,
and understand exactly what you did.  I am learning.  Your help as
always has been much appreciated.

-- 
Joe Morris
Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64





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