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The Thursday 2007-03-29 at 13:03 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:

> Sorin Peste wrote:

> > After running with SUSE 10.1 for a while I've decided it's time to
> > upgrade to openSUSE 10.2. What I'd like to do is a fresh 10.2 install

> Firstly, having experience of upgrading many different systems with many
> different OSs  I would not even consider starting without thoroughly
> backing up configuration and user data. 

I do a full backup as first step.

> An upgrade can be a very exotic
> way of turning your machine into a potential paperweight, and one should
> have a route to get back to where you were before you started before you
> start.

Absolutely. I only hosed one upgrade, from 7.3 to 8.1, because yast2 (7.x 
used yast1) forgot to mount extra partitions (/opt, I think) and run out 
of space in mid-upgrade. Disaster! Yast did not calculate the space 
needed, gave no warning.

Next time I learned to check and mount manually  if necessary.


> I admit to be being surprised about the partitioner attempting to
> rebuild the partitions. Did you select upgrade/update an existing
> installation? This usually leaves the current partitions alone. If it
> cannot find the existing installation there is something very wrong.

The thing is that, although he mentions "upgrade", he is in fact doing a 
fresh install, wanting to leave /home unformated (I left the original 
paragraph above: I guess you misunderstood slightly).  This needs 
entering the manual or expert partitioner mode.


> I am just going through the process of upgrading a box from SuSE 9.3 to
> 10.2 now....

I did the same. My 10.1 got trashed in a disk crash just before backing 
up, so I restored 9.3 and upgraded to 10.2. Went fine O:-)

> 
> I have so far found that the following got torched.....
> 
> syslog (configuration file deleted)

Not really. There has been a change, and /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf.in 
got removed, yes, but I think /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf remained.

Anyway, yes, a lot of configuration files get deactivated, renamed to 
*.rpmsave or similar, and you have to check the output of 
"rcrpmconfigcheck" run, or the output of   and review one by one all 
entries. I prefer that to doing a new install.


> Without such a backup in place this process of restoring functionality
> would be much more difficult.

Absolutely. It is a must, be it upgrade or fresh install.

> BTW I wish that a list of discontinued applications was available so one
> can access the impact of an upgrade beforehand.

Yes.

There is another problem, if you use the downloaded dvd versus the bought 
one: there are many apps that are missing and you have to install from the 
ftp repo. Theoretically, Yast should be able to add a secondary source 
during the install/upgrade phase, but this fails: at that point of the 
install/upgrade the network is down. Yast has not even loaded the ethernet 
drivers. I typed the url to be told some crazy error, just because the was 
no network. Too bad.

- -- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E. R.

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