M Harris wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 April 2007 14:45, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
>> Just for curiosity: How did you objectively compare the two and what
>> made suse better?
>>
>> I am working with both and, seriously, I cannot say, which is
>> objectively better. Even from a subjective view, I fear, I cannot tell.
>       The drivers are not as complete in Ubuntu... I have hardware that will 
> not 
> load Ubuntu... openSUSE loads just fine.
> 
>       Yast makes the Ubuntu installer look like a rock... and frankly... the 
> Yast 
> installer is more intuitive, better organized, better automated, and more 
> reliable... so far in my experience. 
> 
>       openSUSE is way more complete... and what I mean by that is that it 
> ships 
> with far more packages.  Yeah, yeah, Ubuntu ships on one CD... big deal. 
> 
>       And unless you go with Kubuntu, the gnome desktop experience of Ubuntu 
> as 
> objectively compared with the kde experience of openSUSE is disappointing.  
> Not to mention that the base distro of openSUSE gives the user the choice of 
> desktops... Ubuntu has just one... and its not the best.
> 
>       And this is my personal favorite... after I loaded Ubuntu (forgetting 
> to load 
> gcc at install time) I went back and installed gcc from the install media... 
> and then compiled "hello world" with terrible errors... libs not found.  
> After manually installing and installing and installing  I finally got all 
> the pieces installed to successfully compile "hello world".   Forget to 
> install gcc in Yast... no big deal... simply select the category and go... 
> correctly finds all dependencies, pieces parts, and installs  no hits no runs 
> to errors....   and "hello world" compiles the first time.  I guess this is 
> just another Yast kudo.   
> 
>       There is more desktop/system integration in openSUSE.  I know that much 
> of 
> this is kde, but a great deal of this is the touches openSUSE has made to the 
> desktop, yast, control panel, utilities and so forth... its just more 
> seamless... and yet its very intuitive and easily customized.  Well, ok, some 
> of this is subjective on my part...   ;-)
> 
> 
> 
Thanks much for explanation.


I fully agree with your gnome findings.

Therefore I also must admit, that "Ubuntu" for me always means either
_K_ubuntu for recent hardware or _X_ubuntu for older beloved treasure.
Please accept my apologies for confusion.

So it's Kubuntu vs. OpenSuse, where I find the Desktop Experience to be
pretty similar.

Back to work and thanks again
Eberhard

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